lucien1 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 The full picture http://www.zeiss.de/C12567A8003B8B6F/GraphikTitelIntern/28ZeissIkon/$File/BwP-28.jpg [Moderator note: link doesn't work] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim Ghantous Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 It looks rather normal - classic accents but modernised to be a bit 'cleaner'. I guess we have to wait until Sunday unless somebody here has been to Photokina. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy m. Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I want one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucien1 Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 IMO, it's a film camera. With a new incarnation of the Contax G2 Biogon T* 28mm f/2.8. http://www.kyoceraimaging.com/lenses.asp?itemnum=202000 I hope that lens will have the Leica M bayonet, but because of its lens design, I doubt very much it will ever work on a digital camera. Lucien<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry_szarek Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 We can only hope its a reasonably priced digital rangefinder camera!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisarguelles Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Are they already taking orders? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socke Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 It looks sexy to me! And who cares if it's digital or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
split_image Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I'm sure there isn't much info available at this time but this looks like the Contax IV in a newly proposed 1:2 picture size format. Does anyone know who may have made the body? Does this mean Zeiss Ikon is back in camera making business, or is it only a brand and Kyocera is still involved? I have so many questions and I just can't wait until Sunday to find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_Cooper11664875449 Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I hope it takes that plasticy stuff in a tin with the greyish emulsion muck stuck to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro logos Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 My guess is this is a digital camera using a non-fullsize sensor. For otherwise it doesn't make sense to pair it with a first lens of 28mm. I'd much prefer a film camera though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
split_image Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Go to http://www.zeiss.de/de/photo/home_e.nsf -> photokina 2004 special -> Back with Passion You'll see why the 28mm lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro logos Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hm. So you're suggesting there is no particular reason why a 28mm lens other than the fact that it was used to take that picture. You could well be right. For a while I was suspecting if this could be a digital camera based on the 3/4s system, for which 28mm amounts to roughly the standard focal length. The camera really is a curious thing and I can't wait to know if it's film or digital. I have to be honest and say that I really don't see much of a market for another film-based, interchangable lens RF system now that we have Cosina, Hasselblad, Rollei, Contax, and Leica spanning every price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 the consensus on the zeiss forum is that it is a digital. there is also talk of a digital Xpan. hmmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 my guess, however, is that is is "just" a mechanical RF designed to take the full range of G2 lenses. that would be a nail in leica's coffin if they get the camera right. but it also suggests that the RF renaissance continues (just as the high turntable renaissance followed CD). by the way, the body covering looks just like stuff on my super ikonta. NOS?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barefoot Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 According to someone on dpreview, the current picture associated with the "Back with a Passion" theme is a picture of Gothenburg - home of you-know-who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro logos Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 If it is indeed a digital XPan then one has to wonder why it's not branded as such (i.e. Hasselblad/Fuji). To me that scenario is unlikely because a digital XPan would have used the existing Fuji lenses. Perhaps I'm extrapolating too much (can't help it), but from the Zeiss website it seems like Zeiss is behind only the lens (design or production) but not the camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 i did NOT mean that the pictured camera was a digital xpan. i meant that the people on the zeiss forum are discussing rumors of a TBA digital xpan. much as we discuss rumors of a compact leica 75mm and an anniversary M3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 on the bottom?? would be typical for a zeiss product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 i don't see a USB port?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 there definitely appears to be a hinge on the left hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro logos Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Peter's argument makes sense. So perhaps the protrusions were to make room for a large enough LCD screen. And who will be making this (assuming that it's not just a prototype to impress)? Aside from Zeiss themselves, which company has the production capabiliies but without a strong brandname so as to want to revive Zeiss Ikon (analogous to what Cosina has done)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 not to mention that "back with passion" doesn't exactly fit a new digital offering. whoever made the rollei (cosina??) RF bunged this together for zeiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_michel Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 a hinged door to cover an LCD a la rd-1?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maestro logos Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Of all the recent RF models this one is perhaps the most Leica-like. The layout/design, at least from what we can see, is a direct Leica derivation/replication. To me that seems to suggest this is a company that's perhaps experienced in efficeint manufacturing processes but relatively inexperienced in designing an interchangable-lens RF camera. i.e. They looked to others for design clues. Somehow I get the feeling that it is a company like Sigma, Tamron, or one of the Korean electronics giants that's behind this camera. Pure speculation, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diego_k. Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Lets have a close look at this picture: 1.On the left side we can see something sticking along the left edge, like a back door axis, that does not show on the right side on the camera. 2.On the upper left side we can observe 3 longish things that appear to be circular dials: 1 for shutter release, another for speed dial, and a third with no gripping surroundings, could be the base of an advance lever. These 2 things would make me think about a film camera. 3.The lever on the right of the lens, seems to be located quite well for a preview lever, more than a self timer lever, traditionally set on the other side, along the M style guarded button on the left side would surely indicate this is not a fixed lens Assembly, might even be M mount (who knows). 4.The leatherette seems to be of high quality finish, instead of usual low grade plastic covering of todays digital cameras, and the apparent longish RF base between VF and RF, give me the idea that this camera was designed to compel to some wacko product niche costumer like Leica/Nikon/Contax etc. RF users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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