Ricochetrider Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Howdy. I have a 1st generation Olympus OMD EM1. I had the camera set up for RAW only images. Recently I got a new lens, a 7-14mm Pro. Using it yesterday, It turns out the camera is now set to JPEG and I cannot for the life of me find a way to reset it to RAW. I wonder if the 7-14mm lens might restrict the allowable amount of data captured in camera? Would it perhaps be an effect of using an older SD card? ALSO would there be firmware or other updates available for my camera? Thanks in advance! Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 A new card and firmware update seem like good places to start. When I put the newer 14mm Panasonic on my GF1, it won't rotate vertical photos to display vertically in review. Found out it needs a firmware update for the lens, never really got around to it yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Camera in HDR or Art mode? That would allow JPEG only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_gallimore1 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Camera in HDR or Art mode? That would allow JPEG only. This Give the mode dial a twist, even if it's already on 'M', it might have somehow bumped to another setting. There might be some other settings that could exclude RAW capture, but I'm afraid I'm still learning my Olympus.. usual suspects would be anything like HDR or maybe very high or low (extended) ISO settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Thanks guys. I never use art mode and don't like HDR. Generally speaking I want to get the max amount of information into each file- far as I know that means RAW with as little interference as possible? I was shooting yesterday in shutter priority and auto. That said, by the end of the day the camera was acting all kind of weird. I do have more "modern" cards, I'll try one of them. I can probably find my cable to connect the thing to my iMac desktop, if I can I'll try to update the firmware while I'm messing around with it all. I've had the thing since new and it's been across the Atlantic on 4 different occasions with me. Not sure I ever have tried to update it at all! I found one possibility in "settings menu G", IIRC, it had everything BUT RAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Katz Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I have no answers for this, and there is no mention of any firmware required to support the 7-14mm Pro, although there have been some significant firmware updates over the years. Just curious, does the camera operate normally with another Olympus lens? You can try Olympus tech support (LOL), but you may want to consider a complete reset back to factory specs if you can't get the problem solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Salo Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 The amount of data captured is determined by the sensor, not the lens. Also the SD card records the data captured by the sensor and has nothing to do with the lens. Have you pressed the <OK> button and tried to change JPG/RAW via the LCD screen display? Yes, there have been a lot of firmware updates for the EM1. You will need to download and install Olympus Workspace to your computer. Then the updates are accessed via a menu option. The software will tell you if a firmware update is required for your new lens. OM-D E-M1 | Olympus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Enabling distortion/vignetting or other correction for the lens would probably disable RAW saving, since those corrections can only be applied to a JPEG. They could be applied to a lossless TIFF file, but TIFFs seem to have fallen out of favour with camera makers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_gallimore1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Enabling distortion/vignetting or other correction for the lens would probably disable RAW saving, since those corrections can only be applied to a JPEG. They could be applied to a lossless TIFF file, but TIFFs seem to have fallen out of favour with camera makers. No, you get a corrected JPEG and an uncorrected RAW, at least with Olympus, Panasonic and Fujifilm. I don't think that it's actually possible to disable the lens corrections for the JPEG on Olympus/micro four thirds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Smith Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Distortion and vignetting correction is applied automatically in Olympus RAW, and you can't turn it off in the camera. I suspect you may need new camera software, as the 7-14mm came out in 2015. 1 Robin Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Thanks to everybody for their suggestions and comments. Just had a thought: I have the aspect ratio set to 3:2- would that perhaps limit the camera function from RAW to jpeg? I imagine default would be 4:3, yes? I'll have to dig my box out to find a cable to connect the camera to my desktop. Pretty sure I did a firmware update on the camera right out of the box- but none since. I bought the camera just as version 2.0 was released. Version I was on its way out and was on sale. Basically for the a bit less than the cost of a new Pro 12/40mm lens, I got the camera body too. Question: will ANY USB > mini USB cable work or should I have THE one supplied by Olympus? I haven't tried a "reset" yet but have been considering doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 You can use any USB cable that has the right size connectors and (!) fully connects, i.e. does not only connects the power connections on both ends. There are cables that are only good for charging USB devices and do not link the data connection through to the other end. Sometimes it is mentioned on the packaging that a cable is a data cable. You need a data cable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_gallimore1 Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 I've just been through all the settings on my E-PM1 and I couldn't actually find anything that disabled RAW. Art filters still give me a RAW + jpeg, as does iAuto, scene, etc. I don't have HDR though. Aspect ratios are fine too. I didn't go as far as to put the card in a computer to see if the RAW was still 4:3, regardless of the ratio selected, but some cameras do... Definitely try a reset. One thought, does the E-M1 have two card slots? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Then again, who needs RAW anymore. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Salo Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 (edited) Thanks to everybody for their suggestions and comments. Just had a thought: I have the aspect ratio set to 3:2- would that perhaps limit the camera function from RAW to jpeg? I imagine default would be 4:3, yes? I'll have to dig my box out to find a cable to connect the camera to my desktop. Pretty sure I did a firmware update on the camera right out of the box- but none since. I bought the camera just as version 2.0 was released. Version I was on its way out and was on sale. Basically for the a bit less than the cost of a new Pro 12/40mm lens, I got the camera body too. Question: will ANY USB > mini USB cable work or should I have THE one supplied by Olympus? I haven't tried a "reset" yet but have been considering doing so. Aspect ratio affects the JPG. RAW will not be changed. Firmware is up to version 4. On my cameras there are two resets: basic and full. Most USB cables have data function. Either your cable will work or it won't. I included a link to firmware update instructions in my post above. Edited February 20, 2021 by Mark Salo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Then again, who needs RAW anymore. Anyone that wants perfect colour without setting a custom WB for each shot, or who wants more than a standard dynamic range without bracketing, or who wants to customise their sharpening to a specific print size.... or anyone that wants to get the image quality that they've paid for out of their expensive camera. And I hope that question was asked ironically. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 No way. Life is too short for RAW. 4 Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 No way. Life is too short for RAW. Your life, i gather. Mine is too short to bother with suboptimal jpegs when better is available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Using RAW is like flying to Columbia for a slightly better cup of coffee that you can get at Starbucks. Not worth the effort for any slightly perceived gain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieter Schaefer Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Using RAW is like flying to Columbia for a slightly better cup of coffee that you can get at Starbucks. Not worth the effort for any slightly perceived gain. Whatever Starbucks serves is coffee in name only. Luckily, one can get decent coffee without having to fly to Columbia though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Whatever Starbucks serves is coffee in name only. OK, Starbucks was a bad example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I’m curious, do you have an example of your optimal raws and jpeg conversion? Plenty, yes. Why would you doubt there is more/better to be had optimising what's there than what an in-camera conversion produces? You do understand there are detailed and often complex choices to be made which a stupid program embedded in a camera can't get right? And no, you're showing complete ignorance calling caring about the image you get "pixel peeping". It's image peepong, i.e. just that: actually caring about the image. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machts gut Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Then again, who needs RAW anymore. When I convert my pictures to b&w I prefer RAW. It gives much more options to adjust contrast and tonality and I save them as png and get more grey tones than with jpgs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Prove it. Show us an example Really... You really wrote that? Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 You have been explained, by quite a few, what the added benefits of raw format are. They are the same as doing darkroom work instead of handing your film over to Wallmart and making do with the bad prints they produce. That you are asking for samples is, in short, a ludicrous sign of immaturity, a show of disregard and disrespect towards all those who spent a bit of their time providing you with good reasons why the raw format is anything but a waste of anyones time. I can accept that some people just do not care about quality. You apparently are one of them. So be it. Go waste your own time in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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