mike_halliwell Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Viltrox have made a new FTZ..... Login • Instagram (No Login required.....!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Does it have an AF motor to drive non-AF-S AF lenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 Seems not, but they could be keeping that detail for the official release.. although I don't think so. I'm surprised they didn't make an FTZ-E. From my point of view, if it's cheap enough, it will provide the comms chips etc to make custom F>Z mounts. I couldn't bare (or afford!) to trash a Nikon FTZ! As to the 'function button'.. who knows?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 No login? Doesn't seem to work unless you're a member of something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 Well I'm certainly not an Instagram member and the link goes straight through. Anyone else managed to make it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 You shouldn't have to be an Instagram user to see the content in their web interface AFAIC I went right through, but I am an Instagram user. If above link fails, try this to see if you have more luck: Viltrox Official on Instagram 1 Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Nope, I get a login option to use facebook, but must, it seems, log in to something. No facebook here. It is possible there is difference because I'm away from home and using an old Android tablet and on this I also have no Google ID. Edited July 2, 2022 by Matthew Currie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 If they are ready to sell this thing, I am sure they'll advertise it. Nikon already has an FTZ and FTZii. Sometimes Nikon gives them away or sell them for $100. Any competition either has to be really cheap or must be able to drive AF/AF-D lenses to AF to have any appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 2, 2022 Author Share Posted July 2, 2022 has to be really cheap Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 If they are ready to sell this thing, I am sure they'll advertise it. Nikon already has an FTZ and FTZii. Sometimes Nikon gives them away or sell them for $100. Any competition either has to be really cheap or must be able to drive AF/AF-D lenses to AF to have any appeal. The FTZ or FTZii are cheap enough that I wouldn't consider any third party adapter unless it can AF the screw driver lenses. Otherwise it's not worth it to risk problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 3, 2022 Author Share Posted July 3, 2022 What I want to do is make a helicoid macro adapter that at minimum extension allows Inf focus with my 300 PF on my Z6ii but at maximum extension allows ~1/2 macro whilst still all auto. I need the FTZs electronics and some 12 core signal wire and a set of Z extension tubes, but don't want to trash an FTZ, they're not THAT cheap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 It looks like the new Viltrox adapter is called the NF-Z, i.e. from Nikon F to Nikon Z. It is essentially a clone of the original FTZ, along with a rectangular block sticking out from the bottom, and it has no AF motor built in. Therefore, if you have those AF/AF-D lenses without an AF-S motor inside the lens, it remains to be manual focus on Nikon Z bodies. The adapter is $179 at B&H, cheaper than $200 to $250 for the Nikon FTZii. I don't see any reason why I should get this adapter. It blocks the vertical grip on the Z9, etc. just like the first FTZ. Viltrox Nikon F Mount Lens to Nikon Z Mount Camera Adapter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 That's stupid money! Viltrox EF to EOS is £38 on Amazon....:( Maybe they should have made an FTZ-E, ie leave out the aperture mechanics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Is this a product the market needs? Super cheap or with screwdriver capability I could understand. 1 Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 Is this a product the market needs? Ah, no. At that price I won't be trashing one to get the inside bits i want...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just had a look around and I can get a used FTZ for LESS than their new price! WTF....?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland_vink Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 I would prefer to see an FTZ adapter which supports AI metering. When using AI lenses it would be nice to see the actual aperture used in the viewfinder and exif data. That is one of the friction points which has so far stopped my buying into the Z system. Yeah, I know that I am old school, and I'm not sure how much demand there would be for an AI FTZ, but Nikon did keep the AI-S line going for a long time - the last ones only discontinued in 2020 - so there is still a lot of love for these older lenses. It is a shame they couldn't provide just a little more support for them in the Z system :) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just had a look around and I can get a used FTZ for LESS than their new price! WTF....?? And less than what a new FTZ costs too! Apples and oranges. Compare used prices to used prices, new to new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 Compare used prices to used prices, new to new. No, why should I? That's my point! Who is going to buy a new, 3rd party adapter for more than the cost of a used genuine article. There are a lot of FTZs around that were provided free with the early Z bodies, their owners have now gone pure Z with no use for a 'clunky' adapter..... and along comes Viltrox and repeats the same design, along with it's flaws. Sure the 'old' FTZ could be badly worn etc etc, but the idea that the clone has a USB-C port solely to update it, implies it will need updating and it will be them that provides the FIRMWARE. Maybe they won't bother with your NEW, but obscure Nikon Lens? Too risky and you don't even save any money. Business Model, from my point of view.....fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Well, Mike, a new 3rd party product may be (and probably is) in a better state than a used 'original' product. Which is a very good reason to pay a little bit more. And if you are willing to buy used, i bet you that a used Viltrox will also cost less than a used Nikon adapter. And what is there to moan about the possibility to update (and program, perhaps) firmware? You rather not have that? Don't use it then. You really are comparing apples to oranges. But if that makes sense to you, please do! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I would prefer to see an FTZ adapter which supports AI metering. When using AI lenses it would be nice to see the actual aperture used in the viewfinder and exif data. That is one of the friction points which has so far stopped my buying into the Z system. Yeah, I know that I am old school, and I'm not sure how much demand there would be for an AI FTZ, but Nikon did keep the AI-S line going for a long time - the last ones only discontinued in 2020 - so there is still a lot of love for these older lenses. It is a shame they couldn't provide just a little more support for them in the Z system :) You're not old school because if you are you don't care if you have any information in the viewfinder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_halliwell Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 i bet you that a used Viltrox will also cost less than a used Nikon adapter Yup, certainly, but I guess it will be a while before they appear. If they do appear quickly, I'd suggest there's something making the sellers, err sell! Being 3rd party the depreciation will be severe. Even oranges start off green....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 [...] If they do appear quickly, I'd suggest there's something making the sellers, err sell! Being 3rd party the depreciation will be severe. Even oranges start off green....;) Now that is not an oranges - apple thing. Used Nikon FTZ adapters? There must be a reason their owners want to get rid of them. Same-same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_bouknight1 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I am down to three AF-D lenses that I would buy a (reasonably priced) Z AF adaptor for, a 180/2.8, 105/2/DC, and 300/3.8. For the first two, the manual focus gearing is "too fast", I can't get the focus accuracy I want on moving people photos. My AI 105/1.8 & 180/2.8 are easier to achieve accurate manual focus with so I just use those, or the 105/1.4 AFS which is really nice.. I don't know why I still have the 300/2.8, but it will still work when/if my later AFS version dies. So, my screw drive adaptor winds up being just keeping a D850. I probably would not pay much more than FTZ money for a screw AF adaptor, So Nikon's marketing analysis is correct. But Nikon should have made such an adaptor just to support the expected Nikon legacy support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 I am down to three AF-D lenses that I would buy a (reasonably priced) Z AF adaptor for, a 180/2.8, 105/2/DC, and 300/3.8. For the first two, the manual focus gearing is "too fast", I can't get the focus accuracy I want on moving people photos. My AI 105/1.8 & 180/2.8 are easier to achieve accurate manual focus with so I just use those, or the 105/1.4 AFS which is really nice.. I don't know why I still have the 300/2.8, but it will still work when/if my later AFS version dies. So, my screw drive adaptor winds up being just keeping a D850. I probably would not pay much more than FTZ money for a screw AF adaptor, So Nikon's marketing analysis is correct. But Nikon should have made such an adaptor just to support the expected Nikon legacy support. It's difficult as Nikon would have to put 2 motors in the adapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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