New film?

Discussion in 'Black and White' started by glen_h, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. Verichrome Pan is not really sharp enough for 35mm. Plus they never made it on the new B&W film line.

    Plus-X they could certainly do a "special run" of, but they just can't sell enough to keep it in continuous availability.

    All the recent new Kodak films (Portra updates) were spinoffs from their motion picture R&D. Until recently motion picture film was about 80% of their business. That's the only business that could justify capital costs.
  2. If only film was more like the McRib and could be reintroduced periodically. It would be fun to see a different film being made each year for four or five years, and then the cycle would repeat. For one year, people could stock up on Panatomic-X, and then they'd have to wait a few years before it was reintroduced. Such a scheme would keep several films alive without having to keep them all continuously available.
  3. It came in both 126 and 110, so should have been fine for other 35mm uses.

    As well as I know, over the years, many have thought VP better than PX.
  4. Not a problem of width since Verichrome Pan was made in 126 and 828 (same width as 35mm) but maybe the base was of different thickness, which might be a problem. But I would still love to see it.
  5. I might should have started a new thread for this question, but I was wondering among the film manufacturers (both big and small) which one would actually be most likely to introduce a new film?
  6. Introduce a new film or re-introduce an old one?

    FILM Ferrania is trying very hard to re-open an old factory and produce film. Their P30 film in an alpha testing right now.
  7. Well, I forgot about Ferrania. I hope their P30 film is a success when becomes available.
  8. I received some of the Ferrania P30. I'm just scanning some of the rolls I processed. The results are very nice. With HC110, good contrast, tonailty and grain. I hope to get more once they have further production up and running.

    Another film I've been using is the JCH 400 in 35mm. They have just announced a 120 version as well. Between Ferrania, Berger, JCH, Adox, Film Washi, Fuji, Ilford and Kodak...and others....b&w is being well taken care of.
  9. One other "elephant in the room" with regard to film production is MP print stock.

    Even ~5 years ago, the market for that was huge. Every movie that was made, regardless of whether it started as a film or digital original, was spun off to a few thousand prints at a few thousand feet each for cinema release. Start adding that up with the number of movies made, and that amounts to a lot of film.

    That market basically died overnight when the movie studios effectively forced the transition to digital projection.

    A single movie might burn through a bunch of Vision3 or whatever stock they choose to use, and at least as I understand there's still a pretty strong market for that. I'd venture to guess that the loss of the print film market was a real blow, though.
  10. I think I will consider any film I haven't tried yet as a new film.
  11. Getting some nice results from P30 in HC110, Dil B

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  12. I wonder how much Plus-X I'd have to buy to get some :) . I'm guessing we're talking master roll quantities, which I'm sure would be an easy 5 figures if not more and probably more than I'd shoot in the rest of my life.

    Also, why stop there...I'd probably want a second roll on polyester to be cut into sheet film...
  13. Kodak Plus-X was nice, but I'd be eternally grateful if the 1999 version of AGFA APX 100 was available, at a decent price.
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  14. +1 for APX 100.
  15. A very few APX-100 from their last production run in 2005 left. In price-quality an extremely good film, especially in R09/Rodinal 1+50.
  16. Meh. Very happy with Delta 100 and 400, and Acros. Best films I've ever used. I'm sorry to see Acros may go extinct.

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