alan_varga Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I am looking for guidance on how to correct the color and brightness on photos taken with a non-digital SLR. Some are only available on negatives and slides, some are on Kodak Picture CD's. I have saved them as JPG's, butnone of the editing programs or tutorials are giving me the results I want. I have been frustrated trying to adjust RGB, brightness, saturation, contrast, gamma, etc. I thought I mightmake some progress with histogram equalization and white balance, but the results are grainy. When I first took up photography as a hobby in the 1970's I bought some basic color filters to adjust lightingconditions to daylight or tungsten film. I also remember reading about color correction filters. I think thetheory was that there were three color groups, red green and blue, and within each group filters (glass orplastic sheets) would vary in density from 005 (very light) to 060 (very intense). By using various combinationsof these filters, one could duplicate the effects of my basic filters, but a whole lot more as well. Mistakeswith color on ANY picture could be fixed by just combining the right densities of the right colors (e.g. red CC5R+ CC40G). Is there any software that simulates holding up color filters in front of a photo? Is it possible to removegraininess after brightening a dark photo? Two examples of what I want to do are shown athttp://user.mc.net/~aevarga/tests/photos/photos.htm In the first example I want to restore the sky colors shown in the left picture to roughly the colors availablein the right picture. The one on the left is too red because the sun was still up; even with stepping down theaperture it was probably overexposed. I would also like to restore a little of the foreground. In the second example I want to brighten the overall picture, as well as restore the correct facial tones andsash color of gold/yellow. The faces acquire noise (?) when I brighten the picture, and I can't seem to get theyellow correct. Since this is a hobby and I'm not retired, I have neither the money nor the time for Adobe Photoshop. I havebeen experimenting with IrfanView and Helicon Filters. Can anyone recommend software for color correction withpresets, as opposed to airbrush techniques, removing red-eye or creating fancy borders? Also, are there any goodweb tutorials or books on color restoration which are software-independent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryantan Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I know you're on a low budget - but the first thing to do would be to get some proper scans. There is just not enough information in either of your examples to be extracted. You might try a pro lab and see what their rates for scanning a 35mm frame into a 16-bit TIFF is. Yes, you mentioned time and money are short - but there are no magic presets that will work for every picture. Minimally, you might invest in Photoshop Elements ($99), and learn how to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richterjw Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You may be able to find an older version of photoshop on ebay or half.com (or some such similar sight), but it really is helpful to have software that gives you complete liberty play with the photo. I have two scanned photos that appear the same in my only folder with color photos; however, one has a redder cast to it. I used photoshop 5.0 to adjust that and render a more true color tone. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlynch Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Alan: Instead of Adobe Photoshop I'd suggest Photoshop Elements which is much less expensive. Unfortunately both the images were underexposed. If you decide to get Elements, using some of the tools available associated with layers may give you better results than levels and brightness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_darnton1 Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 You cannot make something of something that is not there. Either your scans are rotten, or your negs are, but either way, something's horribly underexposed. I doubt you would have gotten good non-digital prints from either of these negs, if the scans are accurate, so don't blame digital. :-) This is not a case for restoration, but rather for creation from thin air, and I don't know of any software that does that yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammer_jammer Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Today Photoshop Element is doing the good job whether I am habiture of photoshop, but I got 2 element versions (V4 and V5), with my newly bought canon 8800f scanner . This might be good news for that this scanner comes with photoshop elements and it is best suitable photo fixing software for the people who are not so expert with photoshop. You can invest in canon 8800f scanner, so that you can get resonable hardware and software to handle your all kind of negatives in very resonable pricce (I won't say the price here, because I paid in local currency). Results of the scanning with this scanner are mor than good in this category of scanners, I can sure you, just one trck with the negatives, do scan the negatives as postives and invert those in the element.... Thats all, and you are thru...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Forget RGB. It was never relevant to reasonably skilled darkroom printers. Learn Magenta, Cyan, Yellow and density. Trial and error. If you can't identify Cyan vs Green or Blue..or Magenta vs Red or Blue...you'll never get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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