National-Geographics-picture-contest from The Daily Mail

Discussion in 'Casual Photo Conversations' started by Sandy Vongries, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Sandy likes to share some photos....which is really nice.

    Okay, from not a savory place for some folks, including me.

    Hey Ho so what.
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  2. Just found a soapbox to stand and preach on.....cool or what..

    Hate always like to take on a subtle form playing on fears and creating prejudice. A silent shadow which hides in the dark offering open arms of innocent persuasion.

    It then turns humanity against humanity and feeds of the hate.

    And then folks die.
     
  3. Oh, Lord. Be sure the box will bear your weight.
     
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  4. Not sure, Sandy....all these words are weighting me down....they just will not stop.

    You have called on the Lord, Sandy. Is he an important part of your life? Do you feel a love for your Lord? do you reflect that love to your fellows of humanity?

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that"

    Got to go I have been called;)






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  5. I don't care about The Daily Mail or whatever its politics are. What I do care about is for you and anyone reading this to realize that those marching boots you allude to can and will march in either direction, meaning both left and right. Sandy seems like a legit enough guy. I can say this even when I don't necessarily have to share all of his values and concerns (Sandy is an American who probably likes his guns, I'm a European who likes his - ahum - "enlightenment". That doesn't mean we can't shake hands. And to be honest, I would rather shake hands with Sandy right now than shaking hands with those on the left who currently purport to be on the side of liberty and equality while preaching something else altogether. This wasn't the case a couple of years ago. But now it is. Anyone who has a mind can't ignore the political landscape we're now in, and the left is as much if not more to fault than the right. The hell with both. Be your own mind. Don't just blindly follow.
     
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  6. We all share a common love of country. We all share a passion for what is enjoyable in photos. I only flatly reject tabloids like our National Enquirer ( which is distorted, vulgar and often truly gross in its main content.) I like to look at awesome landscapes. Stuff for screensaver quality. I read a wide variety of pubs. National Geographic is great for photos. I go for its environmental messaging as well. And its photo essays. I value my Economis subscription which leads me to some insight into other countries and other values. Same for Guardian on line. I often disagree with the flavor of analyses, but does not stop me, meaning never fails to get me thinking and questioning . Or questioning my own viewpoint which is well formed to say the least by now but not un ambivalent... Which means this is the best we can expect from a publication. Or a forum. Or facebook feed.. Vive la difference to coin a phrase.
    Immersion in another culture or world mindset is tough and getting tougher I see. Missing out on it is worse though. They call it a bubble if you are intrested. That is all I have on the topic of the day. Mahalo and Happy Christmas and Channukah. Aloha as well. :)
     
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  7. Some people read Neues Deutschland* every day. Go figure.

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    *Save your Ostmarks, the DDR shall rise again!
     
  8. "I don't care about The Daily Mail or whatever its politics are. What I do care about is for you and anyone reading this to realize that those marching boots you allude to can and will march in either direction, meaning both left and right" Phil.

    You should care. Yes, marching boots can march in either direction. In the western world they are marching in one direction hard right and in other parts of the world the march continues.

    Humanity against humanity only goes one place a not very nice place.

    Anyway lets drop all this talk about politics/religion they just lead to folks falling out. We are photographers lets enjoy each others photography and thoughts about photography.

    Thanks for the link, Sandy..
     
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  9. Anyway, I wonder if my photo of a Tiger will be discovered by Nat Geo;)

    You never know your luck in a big city.
     
  10. You say this while simultaneously enjoying all the benefits the Western world provides you with. Why do you think so many people from all parts of the world keep flocking and marching to the Western world and to cultures that have Western values? There must be something good about it and something that's better than all the currently existing alternatives, despite the fact that it isn't perfect. That's the problem with the politically correct left today, the need for being constantly apologetic about the very culture that upholds them in the first place. It seeks to cultivate a culture of whining self indulgent narcissists who think the whole of society should revolve around them and their collectively made up identities. Forget about responsibility. Forget about pride. It's all about sorry and oppressed me, me, me. So don't be so surprised when the equally blinded right uses this to its own advantage and for its own dogma.

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    "If you're smart you worship your ancestors and you worship the spirit of transformation simultaneously and you hope that you get the dynamic balance right. And you do it with humility, gratitude, and caution."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep4O1m1ubYE
     
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  11. "That's the problem with the politically correct left today, the need for being constantly apologetic about the very culture that upholds them in the first place "Phil.

    First of all you are putting me in the politically correct left. Let's correct that thought.

    I love capitalism with a small c but not with the big C which equates to the rich getting richer the poor getting poorer. Unless richer folks are happy living in gated communities with private security the balance of rich and poor should be a fairer equilibrium.. Many many wealthy folk believe this thought to been true.
    I do not believe in just hand outs to the poor, they should do community service, which would encourage a work ethic and more importantly a self respect.

    "Why do you think so many people from all parts of the world keep flocking and marching to the Western world and to cultures that have Western values?"Phil

    They like to keep their own cultures. Folk flock to richer countries to improve their lives as folks flocked to the Americas and UK.

    Unless you are illiterate or so blind that you do not want to see.....the march of the hard right is ongoing.

    Perhaps the West can learn from these so called primitive cultures that consumerism is not really the God of this world.....just a simple quick simple solution to sate a appetite which eventually leaves the mind and stomach empty.
     
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  12. And of course just what is consumerism doing to our habit.... our home.
     
  13. And yet here you are touting their beloved narrative of "oppressed vs oppressor" (it's a tempting narrative to have as it makes 'the oppressed' or whomever identifies with the oppressed seem morally virtuous, and the oppressor is of course the evil West). Meanwhile standards of living and equal rights for all hasn't been as high as it is today in the Western world. So before you complain and blame the society you're living in for not quite being the Utopia you imagine it could be take a look at how other parts in the world are doing on that front.
     
  14. Could we get back to discussing the topic of the National Geographic competition photos?

    What is the general opinion, are the unusual events such as volcanic eruptions etc. overrepresented in international competitions? I think extraordinary photos of the ordinary can also be interesting but might not make the grade because evaluators value drama and impact.
     
  15. I think the problem with the photos is not their subject but their extraordinariness. I’d prefer nature photos that look more down to earth and less like a high definition extravaganza of color and form. Nature has soul. These photos mostly don’t. They have dazzle. They’re all “wow”. There’s a lot of humility in nature, which is not portrayed.
     
  16. IMO Many of those who win photo contests have studied past contest results and judges preferences then tailored their work accordingly. I also believe there is a current cultural trend to consider - most, biggest, "best", most outrageous seem to dominate, at least briefly.
     
  17. Early on I made what I thought was a light-hearted contribution to this thread never expecting thing to get this bitter. Can someone please bring it to an end.
     
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  18. My thoughts exactly, though Ilkka & Fred made a fine attempt to get things back on track!:)
     
  19. Who is it who can't keep themselves from always injecting and starting politics into threads, demonstrating their own ignorance in the process. It certainly is not me.
     

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