My sister is getting married

Discussion in 'Wedding and Event' started by alex, May 25, 2010.

  1. I'll be honored to walked her down the aisle; and the (paid) photographer will take the pictures as it happens on most normal weddings.
    If it was up to me (not to displace the actual photographer) but for my own entertainment. I would take both cameras and lenses to the wedding along with the flashes a few light stands and a softbox; for obvious reasons plus my wife's devine intervention I need to limit my load so I don't end up looking like another photographer on all the pictures.
    What should I take?
    The one body is going to be a Canon 7D. The accessories is what I need to figure out and I could use some wise advise from the pros.
    This is what I could take besides the body.
    1) Camera grip. I like the idea but more bulk.
    2) RPS Studio flash bracket.
    3) 2x Canon 580EXII and 1x Canon 430EXII
    4) 1x Pocket Wizard Mini
    5) 2x Pocket Wizard FLEX TT5
    6) 24"x24" Lastolite Eazy Box / unbrellas
    7) Light stands
    8) Tripod?
    Canon EFS 10-22, Canon EF 24-70 Canon EF 70-200 2.8 IS Canon EF 50 1.4 Canon EF 100 2.8. and a back pack to carrie whatever I end up taking.
    Thanks for your feed back
     
  2. are you going there to shoot or to party man?
    cuz you are packing as if you are going there for a photoshoot.
    when i go to a wedding as a guest, i take 1 body, 1 lens, 1 flash..thats it.
     
  3. William Michael

    William Michael Moderator Staff Member

    "for my own entertainment . . . what should I take . . .The one body is going to be a Canon 7D. The accessories is what I need to figure out and I could use some wise advise from the pros."

    My advice is to treat yourself to an extension of your comfort zone - you are "Lighting Heavy" and it is your Sister's Wedding - buy a treat for yourself get the 35L or the 24L take it and your 7D and kick back and get some great moments “sans flash” - extend yourself - it will open up a whole new vista . . . you will have to think and move and see the light and see the best place to be for the moment . . .

    If you don’t have the cash for the gift to yourself then use the 50/1.4. If your other camera is a 5D or 5DII then use it with the 50, not the 7D.

    WW
     
  4. William Michael

    William Michael Moderator Staff Member

    "when i go to a wedding as a guest, i take 1 body, 1 lens, 1 flash..thats it."
    loose the flash . . . it makes you look like a pro.
    WW
     
  5. when i go to a wedding as a guest, i take 1 body, 1 lens, 1 flash..thats it.​
    Ditto that sentiment.
    In similar situations I take my Leica M, two lenses and six rolls of film. Nothing more. Enough for several hundred beautiful images in any kind of light, but in equipment terms discrete and unassuming.
    Less is definitely more. Looking at your equipment list, I have to say that's more than I'd take on an actual assignment, let alone as a guest going to a party :)
     
  6. As a guest, I also take only one body/lens. Often a small package, like Neil, one of my M's with a 35/2, one of my Fuji P&S's, or even my Olympus Stylus Epic.
     
  7. I agree. You will enjoy the wedding more with less equipment =) Let the pro do their job, and just catch the extras.
     
  8. loose the flash . . . it makes you look like a pro.​
    Don't loose it, it may fall off..... then you might lose it!
    In this situation I wouldn't take any photo gear at all.
     
  9. I'm with Steve... be her brother, not her photographer. You'll be in a lot of the photos, so I imagine you don't want to spend half the wedding worrying about the 7D you just put next to everyone's feet.
     
  10. One camera, and if you can locate a 85mm f1.8 or 85mm f1.4 lens, you could do some 'fill-the-frame' portraits using available light. Only a wide-angle lens will give you a lot of the room atmosphere, but decent close-ups will be tough.
    I guess if it is a rainy day (on the wedding date,) your taking the flash umbrella would have a two-fold use.... but the hired photographer may have second thoughts of having to wait for you to finish your shots after you have set up your traveling studio.
     
  11. The way I see it, be a wedding guest or a photographer, not both. You are part of the wedding party, so focus on that. If
    you absolutely have to have a camera, use a p&s. Relax, they've hired a photographer so you don't have to be one.

    Also, the photog might have an exclusivity clause in the contract...
     
  12. Take nothing, why ? 2 reasons:
    1. Have respect for the "hired photographer" you would want the same.
    2. Enjoy the wedding.
    Neil Ambrose said::
    """I take my Leica M, two lenses and six rolls of film""""
    What is film ???
     
  13. The last wedding I went to I took nothing... and had a much better time!
     
  14. I can see a future Posting on the Wedding Forum "When to tell the wedding guest to put their professional gear down"
    Nadine will say, "Be patient, subtly ignore them"
    WW will say, "I really don't have problems like this"
    Bernardo in La will say something about some horrible time he had, and how he doesn't give them the DVD
    Mark T will comment "man I hate that"
    Neil, always gracious, will point out that in the UK guests don't cross the line of guest and photographer
    And I will probably respond with something like...."just let them take the picture, now double your prices!"
    I tease because I love
    :p
     
  15. You don't very often see someone show up to a symphony concert dressed in tails, and conducting along from a score in the front row, right underneath the real conductor. We musicians would have some choice words for him.....
     
  16. Be carefull Alex, or you could take the award as the worst ever Uncle Bob from Hell, if you use your sisters wedding as your "photo opportuinity".As a wedding photographer I would be seriously pissed if you hauled out all that gear and got in my way.Family weddings are not just about capturing memories but creating good ones also.So my advice is...................
    Take one body.
    A short zoom.
    One Flash.
    Hang all of the above on the shoulder of your choosing.
    Party with your sister and family.
    And most important.....dance with your wife.{;~)
     
  17. Thanks for all your feed back.
    I guess I'll have to simplify my choice of what to take and go with the camera one lens 24-70 2.8L and perhaps take the 10-22 and 50 1.4 and leave those in the car along with a flash gun, just in case.
    I enjoy taking pictures so much I can't go places with out a camera. It's like watching a movie without popcorn, or going mountian hiking wearing flip flaps.
    I'll make sure I talk to the Pro and stay out of his way.
    PS: I was not intending to take that whole list from above.
     
  18. @Daniel -- very funny and well observed :)
     
  19. I can see a future Posting on the Wedding Forum "When to tell the wedding guest to put their professional gear down"
    Yep, been there, had uncle Joe with a better digital camera than I did. He did not have a "L" series lens though.
    That is what I miss about film days, no guest ever had a Hasselblad.
     
  20. I've been a guest and a photographer and it's not that fun. Our friends were getting married and I offered to photograph the wedding as they had no budget and it was a tiny affair. It was really hard to get the balance and I reallly didn't feel like I was a guest or a photographer, just somewhere in between.
    If I were you I'd just take a small camera, 1 lens and enjoy the party - who wants to do work on their day off!
     
  21. Gregory--at several weddings I shot, guests had Hasselblads. I was "patient, and subtly ignored them". :^) Seriously--I struck up conversations with them. One of them was using a Metz 40MZ on top, and I had never considered that it was a good combo, so I had to ask him about it.
    Alex--I agree with everyone else. Keep it low key and simple. I wouldn't even take a zoom. I would consider it an opportunity to stretch my photographic vision at a wedding in a different direction. You're still bringing too much stuff--there is no "in case". If your gear breaks down, it is 'meant to be'. Consider the self imposed gear limitation a chance for new growth that will perhaps help you be a better wedding photographer when you are the hired one.
    I would also say that if the wedding goes into the evening, an f2.8 zoom is going to drive you to use flash. If you don't want to bring the flash, or be flashing, bring one or two wide aperture prime lenses.
     
  22. If my sister was getting married, I would be so drunk I'd be incapable of taking photographs .
     
  23. William Michael

    William Michael Moderator Staff Member

    Daniel.
    :) (BIG, HUGE, SMILE) . . .

    ***

    Alex,

    Yes I understood that you like to take your cameras everywhere - I doo too - and that you were only choosing from the list, some items.

    My advice hasn't changed: One Camera, One Prime Lens - extend yourself.

    ***

    BTW, Jerry, an 85 on a 7D is awfully long - I suggested a 35 or 24 on the 7D and a 50 on a 5D . . . with any of those combinations the Brother of the Bride can get decent "close-ups", IMO.

    ***

    What two lenses Neil?
    35/2 and 80/1.4? . . . Or 35/2 and 50/1.4?
    (are my guesses in order)

    WW
     
  24. Ok thanks everyone for your suggestions. I'll thake the camera and most likely the 50 1.4... And one flash since I'll need it at night.
    Ben I wish I did drink, that way I could use my hands to hold something other than the camera all night but that is not the case and I'm not into dacing either so that is why I see my self enjoying the wedding taking pictures.
    Lets see what I came back with.
     
  25. I had a similar situation on Sunday. A good friend of mine got married and I offered to shoot a little at her ceremony. I used only a 70-200 on a d300 and then ditched the camera at my hotel before the party. I had a great time and still got some great shots!
     
  26. I have this lunch bag with a set of film Minolta Maxxum 70s and some doo-dads. I bought them new very cheap, that's my "go bag" for stuff like this and trips out for busines or vacations. I don't bring my good cameras, I want to have a good time not be "lens-sitting" my equipment. So I agree with any of the keep it simple suggestions, but I prefer having a short kit where I have some filters and another lens and other things to make some creative shots. Above all enjoy the party!
     
  27. William - my 'do everything' kit is a 50 f1.0 and 35 f1.4. One of the nice things about a rangefinder is the lenses are faster and smaller than SLR equivalents. Both fit in pockets easily, and are good right from blasting sunlight down to a candle-lit darkness. Good intuition on the focal lengths :)
    In some respects a 75/2 and 28/2.8 would offer a richer range, but I find they're a little too slow to be fully versatile in low light.
     
  28. You're kidding, right? Walk her down the aisle, participate as a family member, and haul along enough equipment to make yourself miserable and piss off the paid photographer.

    So when are you going to shoot? As you're having a drink, talking to Uncle Bob about equipment or doing the electric glide? I've done a couple of weddings for first cousins, and that was close enough on the family tree to make the experience schizophrenic. But my sister?

    My point isn't about whether to make pictures or not. Bang away. But whether or not you participate as an adult and family member or as a slightly creepy one competing with the paid help. How about this: forget everything but one fast lens, maybe two but no more. Be a photographer and not a chameleon. Shoot the moments, the life, and let the chips fall. Not enough fill? So what. Too noisy? So what. Exercise vision and not technique. That's the beauty of being a guest. And you might very well end up with images that are unique, meaningful and entirely different from what the paid help is working to produce.
     
  29. On the wedding day, be in front of the camera, not behind it! This is your sister's wedding! Enjoy it and be IN the photos! Be part of the memories.
    If you want to give your sister a gift of photography do it the day before or after the wedding! Enjoy and Cheers!
     
  30. I agree, get in the photos and don't take them! My wife is always telling me that I'm not in any photographs. At a time where it's YOUR family what better time to loosen up and have fun with them and allow the other pro do the work. BTW I would have to make some comments about his gear. Have fun with it. v/r Buffdr
     
  31. William Michael

    William Michael Moderator Staff Member

    Alex: I didn't think you'd be battered down so quickly :)
    Seriously - I am sure you will come back with some great shots and . . . I am sure you will have fun being outside your comfort zone. I guess you could leave the 10-22 secured in the car just in case, on the night, you decide we are wrong.

    (Aside): Neil - I am drooling at the "1.4" on the 35 and the "1" on the 50 . . . the 35/2 is smaller and when pushing Tri-X (remember that?) to ASA1600 was sufficient. I think the 35/1.4 is a bigger diameter and blocks some vision - anyway it is a bit longer, I know . . . but I am still drooling at the lens speed. . .

    WW
     
  32. Mark T will comment "man I hate that"​
    actually i wouldn't care.. as long as they don't interfer with my job.....if they do.. then
    "man i hate that"
     
  33. Alex Elias- I was kidding, I don't have a sister, and I don't drink or smoke, after about thirty years of shooting weddings, I've hung up my boots now and retired, I'm very happy now to attend them as a guest because I thought it was time when the grandchildren of couples whose weddings I shot in the 1960s started asking me to do theirs !
     
  34. here is another idea to throw in, since your 7D takes HD video, why don't you capture video? if you found a good spot or two, you could put it on a tripod and be in front of the camera. if I were a family member involved in the wedding, I would be focused on family and being involved, but if I felt the need to use a camera and want to be low key, I would want to use something like a G11, to me there is something about having a camera that you can fit in your pocket and still get good shots with.
     
  35. It's often a struggle for the pro (even with help) to get through "formals," etc., with lighting gear to be set up, schlepped in and out of perhaps two or more locations, etc. in the limited available time. There's no way it will work with a second person trying to do so.
    Put on the 24-70 and a flash and maybe a bounce card of some sort. Leave the rest at home. Maybe the 10-22. Futzing around with a big bracket may help on some pictures but is a distraction and added complexity. The rest of the family may already be trying to work out with your wife how to chain you to a radiator someplace.
     
  36. I shall be taking a very discrete Panasonic LX3 to my next wedding I attend as a guest. It will make a nice change to carring a 5DMKII/70-200L/flashgun and a 5D with 24-105F4L, at the same time on my person, when I am the photographer. Happy days.
     
  37. Interesting. My sibling is also getting married later this year... I was planning to taking my slr along, but I think I'll be cranking along with my QL17 now :)
    Alvin
     
  38. Leave the cameras home and have fun drinking, eating, dancing, and maybe even taking a limo ride.
     
  39. Leave the cameras home out of respect for your sister. Be a professional family member for a change. You are walking her down the aisle so you are replacing her father for one day. It won't kill you to not take pictures. Besides. You will be in all of the ceremony shots. The only thing you could possibly shoot is the reception.
    Your wife is wise. Try limiting your load to a bow tie, a gift and her.
     
  40. Lee - You're a very wise man.
     
  41. Bring a point and shoot, let the PAID photographer do their job (and not insult your sister by showing her that you don't respect her judgement to hire someone to do it right) and just enjoy yourself. Your a guest, you don't need anything more than a point and shoot, if that. Exactly what Lee said.
     

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