my neigh-bor

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by doug herr, May 12, 2005.

  1. In a neighbor's pasture:
    horse, evening light - Sacramento County California
    Leicaflex SL, 400mm f/6.8 Telyt-R, shoulder stock & monopod, K64
    Comments and critique are always welcome.
  2. Beautiful, Douglas.

    In the age of EDIFAFSVRIS etc lenses, you are set a great example as to what one can do with good optics, good eyes and clear head.
  3. Great shot, Doug. It's amazing how the catchlight in the eye transforms what could almost be an abstract grouping of tones into a portrait of a clearly sentient being. The catchlight is far less than 1% of the total picture area but, in my opinion, makes all the difference. Makes me wonder what he's thinking.
  4. "Makes me wonder what he's thinking."
    probably something like "Oats? Clover? Apple core?" Horses rarely think of more than eating and whether the plastic bag rustling in the weeds is going to eat them.
  5. "Horses rarely think ..."
    Make that "Geldings rarely think ..."
  6. Jonathan Davis wrote: "The catchlight is far less than 1% of the total picture area but, in my opinion, makes all the difference"
    Jonathan, I hadn't thought of that before but now that you've pointed it out I agree.
  7. Great to see you here again Douglas. Someone said on another thread that you had gone to another forum. I'm very happy that you are still here.
  8. To any of the newcomers to this Forum, let it be known that Doug Herr
    is one of the finest wildlife photographers in the world. (As well
    as an all around good guy to Leica users)

    Jerry Lehrer
  9. Love that Kodachrome look1
  10. Douglas is the best advertisement for what can be accomplished with the 400/6.8 and related visoflex/R Telyt lenses.

    Can't help humming that tune "momma don't take my kodachromes away". :)
  11. "To any of the newcomers to this Forum, let it be known that Doug Herr is one of the finest wildlife photographers in the world. (As well as an all around good guy to Leica users)"

    I had an interesting encounter with Doug in the Nikon forum. Even long before that, I was very aware of his work and the examples he displays in his website.

    I still maintain that he is a great inspiration in this age of EDIFAFSVRGIS, etc world.
  12. When I was in college, I worked for a horse vet who, after being stepped on for the umpteenth time, said that horses are small animals being chased by a very large animal that is firmly attached at the neck. He once had a mare lie down on him in a stall, pinning him for a good while until someone went and got her favorite goat. Which reminds me - in the old days of slaughterhouses, the horses wouldn't go into the killing room because they could tell that bad things happened in there. So the men would keep a goat, and the goat would calm the horses enough that they would follow the goat into the killing room. They used to call that goat a Judas goat. Hard to tell whether horses are dumb or stubborn or perhaps even smart sometimes.

    Nice photo. Would be nice to see others.
  13. my neigh-bor
    I love puns, nice one. Nice photo also.
  14. Great, Doug.
  15. Thanks for the comments and compliments. I'm wondering about a slight crop to 8X10 proportions, trimming only on the right side. Whaddyathink?
  16. Nah, Doug, leave it as it is. It's perfect.

  17. Edifafsvrgis? Sounds like a Lithuanian surname. Could you Lett us in on your secret code?

    Beautiful picture Doug. Wonderful to see your name (and photos!) on this forum
  18. <br>respectfully, could the contributors of this thread please explain why this image is particularly endearing? I am not seeing any of the qualities of light, colour, nor composition that the POW by Francisco Hoyos has, that pulls me into the image. I find all these qualities captured in Francisco's resplendent D70 image, and yet Douglas's contribution strikes me as a nondescript, long-telephoto, image without any connection between subject and photographer, or other contextual quality to relate with.<br><br>
    I admit to enjoying birds more than horses, but I don't think that is the obstacle to my appreciation.
  19. Doug,

    I was thinking exactly the same. The photo is great but there is something slightly disconcerting about the way the hair is ruffled on the right hand side, or perhaps just too much darkness which somehow detracts from the beautiful smoothness and powerful tranquility of the rest of the image. Sorry if this sounds a little bit poetic but I can not find better words.
  20. Why is it a terrific picture? It captures your attention and holds it. It conveys strength, appropriate for a horse picture. And in a clever and fascinating way, Doug has photographed a relatively tiny portion of the animal, not even its whole face, and in so doing he has conveyed the message "horse", which will mean different things to different observers. Somehow, the essence of his subject is felt via that small selective sample.

    And it ain't trite.

  21. gib


    great photo, not so sure about some of the dismissive comments about horses
  22. SCL


    I think the one eye and highlights off the muzzle really caught my attention. Maybe I need to give my 400 Telyt more exercise. I liked the endearing quality of this photo. And yes, Doug, a crop might improve the composition.
  23. I see this has become a critique thread so ..... I have several observations which I would like to express.

    First, this is a picture of a horse that looks like a real horse. If you've seen a real horse you know that the colors are horse colors. This fact is lost on some people who don't remember what a horse looks like or have never seen a real horse.

    Second, photo subjects with eyes need to be pictured carefully, otherwise their eyes will be unfocused, dim, unseeing or otherwise appear to be blind and uninteresting. This horse has something on its mind even if it is only dreaming of something.

    Third, this picture is definitely unposed. There is no distracting object drawing the viewers eyes away from the subject or an unnatural background that confuses the viewer.

    Fourth, the image cropping is different and unique as opposed to all the convetionally framed pictures.

    I failed the test for wine magazine ad writers.

  24. This is a very nice photo Doug. I saw it on the LUG but I don't sign on there. I have seen your work over the years there and salute you sir!
    The power in the gaze and the texture carried my attention. I also sort of like the way the light on the upper right connects with what is highlighted to the right of the horses left eye (hope this is not confusing) so NO, leave well enough works:)
  25. Great photo Douglas, here are two shots of my neigh-bor...more mundane composition
    though. Delta 100 and M3 with collapsible cron. <P><img src="http://"><P><img src="http://">
  26. Thank you for this great photo Douglas. I like the side lighting, the mysterious way that the left eye is hidden in the shadows, and the sweet looking right eye that is in the Golden Zone of composition. Though not a conventional photograph, it follows the rule of thirds. The eye pulls me in emotionally. I like the horse, and the photographer for seeing him in this way.

    Thanks again!

    It's NiCanon speak

    extralow dispersion internal focus autofocus-S vibration reduction [?gyroscope] image stabilizer. It's hard to keep up with all of this nonsense. Why don't they simplify the nomenclature:

    My suggestion is just a few descriptors

    lenzen fushtunkena (bad)
    lenzen zozo (soso)
    lenzen gut (good)
    lenzen ser gut (very good)
  30. I mizpoke (or is that, misacronymized?) -- NIKWTHYWTA
  31. part of the beauty of this picture goes beyond the subject and has to do with the drama of
    the composition, divided, the darkness of the right side of the foreground, the light on the
    face, and the bokeh and light of the left half of the composition. that is what speaks to me
    in this picture. my question to dh is this the same as the first post on the lug?
    i'm all for full frame, and suggest that any cropping would throw off the proportions of
    this elegant composition.
  32. Nice composition and light, Doug. I find the right side interesting and wouldn't want it cropped.


    No...G is Nikon's designation for its line of lenses with no aperture ring. The aperture is instead electronically controlled from the camera body. The rest is correct though.
  33. Thank you, Eliot! The lens names drive me insane. I second your choices for better names. Even then, i suspect they are not going to perform any better than the real good lenses.
  34. thank you for the observations. I think cropping off the right-side, to a square-format, is a far-more interesting image. the eye is the only interesting element and should be isolated enough to hold the viewers concentration on it. the image has little else of interest. the out-of-focus hind-quarters adds nothing and the colours, especially the greens, are nothing that compels me to use K64.
  35. took me a while to realise the bokeh on the left was the body.
  36. Doug - I like your photo. Not what one normally sees in horse photos (even in good ones), which is why I like it.


    <<< ... lenzen fushtunkena (bad) lenzen zozo (soso) lenzen gut (good) lenzen ser gut (very good) ...>>>

    That's funny, Eliot.
  37. >>

    Any online translator could do better than that... not one of the words you wrote exists (except 'sehr gut')
  38. >Gerald Lehrer , may 12, 2005; 05:40 p.m.
    To any of the newcomers to this Forum, let it be known that Doug Herr is one of the finest wildlife photographers in the world. <

    Woah nellie, that's some major butt-kissing there dude. Sure glad the caption said "horse" and I've been riding em all my life. Take a look at Stocklein's or Vargas's work if you want to see what horse photos look like from two of the really world's finest, that people actually have heard of outside the Leica Forum. Course they use Canons so they probably don't count to you clowns.

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