My first week with the X100

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by bobtodrick, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. Have had my X100 for a week now. Gave it a thorough working out over the weekend at an open mike stage for up and coming country artists.
    Firstly, it isn't a poor mans M9 or any such thing (lets get that out of the way).
    But those of you who remember the Konica Hexar A/F (the non-interchangeble lens Hexar)...well that's exactly what it is, updated to todays digital world.
    No lag time, quick A/F aquisition in low light, very quiet...and a quick look at the files (both B&W & Vivid color settings at 400ISO) seem very good...puts any of the 4/3 compacts out their to shame.
    Pretty sure they have a winner here...and Fuji has confirmed an X300 next year that will have interchangeble lenses.
    It will be interesting to see how Leica reacts. Face it...if this was the Leica X1, they couldn't keep them in stock at twice the price.
     
  2. Just like the Leica M9 should not be compared to a X100, the X100 should not be compared to micro four third or Sony Nex for that matter. All these cameras suit different pockets and are for different purposes. The Oly/Pana offerings cost less than the X100 including the cost of an adapter for older Leitz or other lenses.
     
  3. Bob, where did you see that they confirmed an X300? I would be very interested in reading that.
     
  4. puts any of the 4/3 compacts out their to shame.​
    How much did you pay for your? Probably much more than a m43 camera, right? The panny and olys are/were as high as $700 and as low as $350...X100 even at a non inflated price of $1200, should be better. Is it 2-4 times better? I don't know how much they go for on the bay but I'm sure it's much more than $1200 due to Japan's situation.
    For those who are interested, LL has a X100 test here: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/fujifilm_x100_test_report.shtml
     
  5. So they go for 1200 dollars in U.S ? Here I've seen them for 1200 euros, which is 1700 dollars.
     
  6. Don't know the exact pricing, Phylo, just going on memory...I'm probably wrong though it's up there.
     
  7. Now let's see Leslie. A little over a year ago I paid $1199 for my Olympus E-P1 w/ 17mm lens (35mm equivalent).
    Last week I paid...yup, the much more expensive $1199 for the Fuji...exactly the same price.
    And a lot of people have purchased micro 4/3rds as a Leica alternative...just as they will this camera.
    Ya know, I forgot why I quit frequenting this forum a couple of years ago...now I remember why...arguing for arguings sake.
    Oh and Zack (who asks a question instead of griping)...I'm in the pro photo supply biz...this is from Fuji. They have decided to pursue what they call the serious prosumer market. The plans are that in the fall they will release an X200...a simplifed 'p&s' version of the x100. If these cameras do well they plan on the interchangeble lens version sometime next year.
     
  8. "So they go for 1200 dollars in U.S ? Here I've seen them for 1200 euros, which is 1700 dollars."
    Well, correction: the MSRP was $1200 up from $1000 due to the weakness of the dollar. Right now that's all theoretical. They are not taking any more pre-orders for them and at auction on ebay people are paying upwards of $2000 for one.
     
  9. Ya know, I forgot why I quit frequenting this forum a couple of years ago...now I remember why...arguing for arguings sake.​
    Bod, I don't argue just to argue. AFAIK the Oly and Panny were not that much...as least not for long. I'm just saying it shouldn't be compared to the X100 (different sensor size and all) just like it shouldn't be compared to the FF M9. That's all. It is overpriced imo but that's another story. FWIW I don't own a m43 so it's not like I'm m43 fanboy...Why do people get offended so easily?
    BTW, I used a LX3 as a leica alternative...Should we compare that to the M9 or the X100?
     
  10. If these cameras do well they plan on the interchangeble lens version sometime next year.​
    I have to laugh at this. I think they would do well if they had just started with the interchangeable mount. But, there are people working at that company who are much smarter than I, so I have to bow to their logic as they probably know things I don't.
    Now you have me even more curious as to what a P&S version would be....
     
  11. This is all good to know Bob.
    Wonder if Oly, Panny, or even (insert manufacturer) will beat Fuji to the interchangeable lens x300 (or variation thereof) now that there's a very good template in the x100.
    As we all know, the competition is pretty quick and aggressive in the mirrorless market.
    I guess we'll have to see what comes next.
    btw, I paid full retail (approx $1200) for an E-P2 kit w/ 17/2.8 Dec 2009.
     
  12. Wow, I guess people did pay that much for the m43...On the otherhand, I saw the GF1 for ~$400 not too long ago. Sammy even had it for $299 for a couple weeks. The latest EPL2 is ~$600 and Nex is at about ~$650...
     
  13. I think this just shows how volatile and fickle the market is.
     
  14. Definitely, especially with Japan as is. Quick look at the bay, I see X100 near $2000 buy it now...
     
  15. I'm tempted by the Olympus E-P2 + 17/2.8 lens. Add the viewfinder for $250. That's currently $1050 at B&H. That's pretty darn close to the $1200 of the Fuji. Close enough that I'd rather have the optical viewfinder, plus another stop faster lens, from the Fuji.
    Where did you buy yours from, Bob?
    Eric
     
  16. Leslie Cheung [​IMG], Apr 04, 2011; 04:07 p.m.
    Wow, I guess people did pay that much for the m43...On the otherhand, I saw the GF1 for ~$400 not too long ago. Sammy even had it for $299 for a couple weeks. The latest EPL2 is ~$600 and Nex is at about ~$650...​
    Leslie, this should illustrate very clearly the fact that price and value are not one in the same. Fuji's X100 enjoys being the only camera in the market with its features at (or near) its price. If you want a metal camera with an excellent lens, stripped-down features/controls, and enjoy wide angle lenses, your only real options are this or a Leica. There may be other cameras in the market that provide better value for the money, but the fact that no other camera is quite the same means that the price can be very high, as demand outstrips supply.
    Right now, this camera is worth what people will pay for it. You can spout all the Panasonic prices you want, but until Panasonic makes an X100 those prices mean nothing. Sensor and processor similarity mean nothing, as people attracted to the Fuji are generally attracted by the styling and simplicity. In other words, people that want a digital camera but don't like high-tech. Right now the Fuji X100 costs what it costs, and that's the end of it until they have serious competition. The cost of other cameras has no bearing whatsoever on the value of this one.
     
  17. M4/3 cameras are available for very low prices because Olympus and Panasonic have brought out such a flurry of new models that 6 month old cameras are yesterday's papers.
    Newer models, like the GH-2 are already dropping from their higher introductory prices, but the GH-2 is still selling for $1000 with kit lens. (I think I remember that it started at about $1400.)
    As an APS-C camera with a viewfinder and a price under $7000, the X100 is pretty much unique at the moment, and worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay. If sales remain strong, the price will stay up. More than likely in a few months, the price will start to edge downward. If there really is an X300, the X100 will stay on the menu, but at a much lower price-point, maybe $600.
    If you sort of like the camera, but don't like the price, just wait.
     
  18. The Fuji will be priced by supply and demand, of course. IMO, Zack, it is overpriced but that's just me (of course)...I could careless about the .5x mag hybrid finder. I'm interested in how fast it could contrast AF though...I suspect it isn't as fast as some put it, no contrast AF is that fast...
     
  19. And of course Leslie, everything revolves around what you think...well IMO only of course.
    Really...I'm amazed how you trivialize what other people think/feel...with the hackneyed addition of 'IMO'.
     
  20. Bob, I speak for myself. That should be self explanatory since I wrote it. I added "IMO" because it seems like no one got it including you. Sorry if that offended, it's a public forum... no worry, I rarely come here anyway...
     
  21. The biggest weakness of the X100 that Luminous Landscape reports is the near unusability of manual focus. A version that takes M-mount lenses, perhaps with an adapter, would be a serious competitor with used M8s. The M8 has a larger sensor, so the difference in image quality would be a question.
     
  22. And a large sensor is the feature that will really catch my attention. The Leica X1, even priced at $1600 on ebay, for a fixed lens point and shoot, is too much money. I like the approach of the Fuji X100 having an electronic *and* optical viewfinder. Will I buy one? No, I prefer SLR cameras overall. But it is certainly interesting to see what is happening with the merger of film style cameras with digital technology.
     
  23. Leslie Cheung [​IMG], Apr 04, 2011; 10:08 p.m.
    The Fuji will be priced by supply and demand, of course. IMO, Zack, it is overpriced but that's just me (of course)...I could careless about the .5x mag hybrid finder. I'm interested in how fast it could contrast AF though...I suspect it isn't as fast as some put it, no contrast AF is that fast...
    Leslie Cheung [​IMG], Apr 05, 2011; 12:23 a.m.
    Bob, I speak for myself. That should be self explanatory since I wrote it. I added "IMO" because it seems like no one got it including you. Sorry if that offended, it's a public forum... no worry, I rarely come here anyway...​
    No, we got it. We're not dumb. The reason I went to such great pains to click the italics button was to stress that price and value are not the same thing. The X100 is not overpriced. Unless you can show me a serious competitor that offers similar performance and styling for less, then you're wrong and don't understand the meaning of the words that you use.
    Oh, you can't? Fair enough.
    Then what you meant to say was that the X100 is not a good value. And I totally agree. Every major manufacturer makes a better camera for less money. But those cameras have competition, which is why they have lower prices.
    Let me put this into perspective for you Leslie: I own a $50 paintbrush. It's awesome. Best paintbrush I've ever owned. Had it a long time too. But I've owned $20 paintbrushes that are the same size and are almost as good. The value of my paintbrush is well below $50 to most people, because you could buy two of the other ones and a new DVD to watch while you're painting. The price of the brush was perfectly reasonable. In fact the price was a downright steal, since that brush is usually $75, which is what a competitor would charge. Good price. Bad value. But I had to have the brush, so the price was what the price was.
    The X100 is some people's paintbrush.
     
  24. Guys, I think the X100 is over priced or, say, over valued. I have nothing more to say on the subject. As for comparing cameras, just use what work for you...whether it's the X100, GF1, M9 or LX3. It's the result that matters...not the camera nor how much the camera is valued or priced.
     
  25. Anyway, I found Bob's initial micro-review and the linked Luminous Landscapes interesting. It is very much like the Hexar AF: excellent AF worthless MF. Silent. Excellent image quality. (Amazingly good at very high ISO according to LL.) And full of operational mysteries, though I think the Hexar AF is the mystery star.
    I am waiting for this camera to show up here in Kansai so I can play with it. (No, I do not worry about radioactive dust on cameras.) I am also waiting with utmost eagerness to see the upgraded version that can take interchangeable lenses.
    What I can get from the LL review is that the X100 is a great camera as along as you don't demand much for it, just like the Hexar AF.
    I'll wait and see. Meanwhile, I am inspired to take my Hexar AF out for a spin.
     
  26. Compare the X100 to the Leica X1, not to M43.
     
  27. Bob, do you have any pictures you took with it? All this bickering and people seem to have lost the point! Let's see what it can do! How do you find the lens renders? What is it like using the OVF with an LCD overlay? I am like Alex in that I am curious how it compares to the Hexar AF. That is a camera which has a utility and charm that belies its technical spec sheet. It just is a pleasure to use and makes great images. My hope would be that the X100 is similar in a digital way. Having read the LL article, I suspect that the menu frustrations would not really get to me...I tend to set up the camera one way and leave it...I am wondering how other photographers more like me have found it...
     
  28. Agree with Stuart- let's see some pics! People seem to be very sensitive on this thread. I am afraid to say what I think - but here goes: I will wait 6 months on this one and if the price comes down I may go for it . Oh oh - that must mean I think it's too expensive...
     
  29. Some photos would be interesting. There are some good shots on LL. They are good as photographs and good as demonstrations of what the X-100 can do.
    After 20 plus years I love my aging Hexar AF. I imagine I would love this camera too. I try the Hexar AF has a highly advanced point and shoot. I would no doubt treat the X-100 the same way. I if not a Leica.
    Strange to say, this thread has got me interested in the Leica X-100, which I never was before.
     
  30. I would like a small rangefinder I suppose. I would want it to be manual focus, a tight center weighted meter, no video. No live view. Optical viewfinder with easily obtained diopter eyepieces.. I would want it to shoot film since my hobby is B/W film. It would accept interchangeable lenses. Anyway this one does not meet my needs. To me the little camera should cost $299.00 on the top side so for the real and current price I would not buy it for a gift.
     
  31. I will try and post some images this weekend...a hectic job schedule and two boys under 10 yrs...life gets in the way at times.
    I guess I'm a little taken aback by all the negativity expressed here (along with the people who see the value of this camera).
    Where for $1000 can you get a quality metal viewfinder camera (with a finder every bit as good as the Hexar or Voigtlanders)...13mp, APS-C sensor...oh, you can't, at any price.
    But these were the same people who didn't see the value of the Hexar A/F when it came out. I had one and remember being told:
    "you paid too much" (about $650 in 1998)
    "It's no Leica" (wasn't meant to be)
    All the same sentiments expressed here. Yet two years later it was a cult classic that couldn't be kept in stock and was going for $700 used.
    The world is full of naysayers it appears. But I don't think you'll find as discreet a street camera, that is as intuitive to use (meaning honest to god aperture ring and shutter dial), that is truly pocketable and has the low light performance and resolution this camera has, at just over $1000.
    Anyhoo...yes, the writer at Luminous Landscape brings up some valid points. The manual focus is terrible (exactly as it was on the Hexar). There are some quirks in the menu that, as he says can be addressed with firmware updates. And anyone familiar with Fuji S series DSLR's knows that one thing Fuji is good at is providing firmware updates when there is a valid need.
    Everything falls easily to hand when you are shooting. Even the complaint about the menu system being a little quirky...like loading film into an M6 isn't ;-)
    But, if like me you're idea of street shooting is going out to capture the moment, as it happens...and not about whether it is a 'Velvia or Provia' moment...or whether it requires a tweek in the dynamic range...then the camera is ideal. The shutter dial falls easily under your trigger finger and the aperture ring is cradled between your fingers...exposure challenges are handled in an instant.
    And a big plus over the Hexar is that when using the optical finder, for an instant you get a confirmation in the viewfinder...for a brief instant you get a playback of the image. With the Hexar it was all to easy, when focusing and recomposing to find that you actually caught the ear instead of the eyes...that sort of thing. But with the Hexar you of course didn't find that until you got the film back. Having this confirmation is the next best thing in my mind to having a true rangefinder patch that you know you've placed over the eyes.
    Yup...I'm heartily singing the praises of this camera, just as I did with the original Hexar. And just as with the Hexar, I notice that those who are all pooh-poohing it have never actually touched one...let along shot with it.
     
  32. What does seem to suck is that they cost 500 dollars more in Europe.
     
  33. Picked up up an X100 last Saturday and used it alongside an M Leica a few hours later while photographing at a political event. Am very impressed with this little camera and the results it produces. What makes it more than anything is the optical viewfinder. I've used M Leicas, and lots of other cameras since the late sixties so have looked through viewfinders more than most people. If Leica had put a finder like this in the X1 it would certainly have helped sales. With the beeps turned off this is one of the quietest cameras I've ever used, perfect for discreet shooting. Several times while using the X-100 I had to chimp to make sure the shot had been recorded, it was that silent.
    Am presently in the planning stage for some more travel in Asia and had been looking for a small digital to round out my Leica film gear. Why didn't I pick an M9? Don't think I didn't consider it, several points kept me away. While I could afford the cost of an M9 body the thought of having to replace my wide glass was too much. The 21mm Super Angulon is reported to not work very well on the M9 sensor because it protrudes so deeply into the body, it also doesn't meter very well for the same reason. My old pre-ASPH 35mm Summilux would need to have metal machined off the rear shroud to even make it mount. The lack of adequate sealing and possibility of dust entering during lens changes was another strike against the M9. Dust removal in DSLRs using sensor shaking is now the norm, will it be a feature on the M10?
    The X-100 isn't perfect, no camera ever is, that's why you need several different systems to cover all the bases. Am sure some things will get fixed with software updates, others will have to wait for the next model to come out. One thing I'm sure of is that other makers will be watching Fujis success and taking note. Expect to see more compact cameras with this type of viewfinder in the future. I expect Fuji will working overtime to come up with the next version of the camera. I don't think it will be interchangeable lens, but could be wrong. Not having a focal plane shutter complicates things a bit. What I'm guessing is a fixed zoom lens, something like a 35-90mm, perhaps a bit slower than the present f/2. I also expect they'll produce an all black ninja version before long, wait and see........
     
  34. Picked up up an X100 last Saturday and used it alongside an M Leica a few hours later while photographing at a political event. Am very impressed with this little camera and the results it produces. What makes it more than anything is the optical viewfinder. I've used M Leicas, and lots of other cameras since the late sixties so have looked through viewfinders more than most people. If Leica had put a finder like this in the X1 it would certainly have helped sales. With the beeps turned off this is one of the quietest cameras I've ever used, perfect for discreet shooting. Several times while using the X-100 I had to chimp to make sure the shot had been recorded, it was that silent.
    Am presently in the planning stage for some more travel in Asia and had been looking for a small digital to round out my Leica film gear. Why didn't I pick an M9? Don't think I didn't consider it, several points kept me away. While I could afford the cost of an M9 body the thought of having to replace my wide glass was too much. The 21mm Super Angulon is reported to not work very well on the M9 sensor because it protrudes so deeply into the body, it also doesn't meter very well for the same reason. My old pre-ASPH 35mm Summilux would need to have metal machined off the rear shroud to even make it mount. The lack of adequate sealing and possibility of dust entering during lens changes was another strike against the M9. Dust removal in DSLRs using sensor shaking is now the norm, will it be a feature on the M10?
    The X-100 isn't perfect, no camera ever is, that's why you need several different systems to cover all the bases. Am sure some things will get fixed with software updates, others will have to wait for the next model to come out. One thing I'm sure of is that other makers will be watching Fujis success and taking note. Expect to see more compact cameras with this type of viewfinder in the future. I expect Fuji will working overtime to come up with the next version of the camera. I don't think it will be interchangeable lens, but could be wrong. Not having a focal plane shutter complicates things a bit. What I'm guessing is a fixed zoom lens, something like a 35-90mm, perhaps a bit slower than the present f/2. I also expect they'll produce an all black ninja version before long, wait and see........
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  35. Seriously, Bob, why get offended so easily. This is a public forum. As much as you like to sing to the X100, I have a right not to. I was not even that negative...all I said was it's overpriced and it shouldn't be compared to m43 which many here agree in case you haven't noticed. FWIW, the Hexar AF is probably the last film camera I sell, I like it that much...Naysayer? Come on, Puulease! I didn't know I must like all leica and leicalike cameras to participate here. Furthermore, since you are an artist, you must understand different point of views, speaking one's mind, and going against the grain sort of speak etc...
    I'm all for you showing some pics, let's see what you and the x100 can do. Must be selfish of you to not show them just because of me, one participant in a public forum, right? For everyone elses here, let's see them...
     
  36. Here's one (JPG) right out of the box with default settings.... 400 ASA, 1/30" f/2
    The Green party leader was meeting constituents in her home riding.
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  37. And here's the 100% crop.
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  38. Camera's appeal to people or they do not. For someone that thinks this little camera is the answer to their needs it could be worth a lot. To another person like myself it does not have a place. However I am sure it will take nice pics for the person that would want one.
     
  39. Thanks, Glenn, for posting the pics though my last comment was directed at Bob, the op...just so we are clear. Love Kermit, good capture...I like Kermit and the guy's expression! Where in Asia are you going?
     
  40. Strange to say, this thread has got me interested in the Leica X-100, which I never was before.​
    Funny, I didn't know the Leica brand was in such poor shape that they would sell the X100 under the Fujifilm...
     
  41. Hi Leslie,
    India for sure, and hopefully a few of the surrounding countries. Spent a lot of time traveling with a Leica during the seventies and have a fancy to do it again. Won't be going to Afghanistan this time, wouldn't feel safe wandering down back alleys and bazaars like I did close to forty years ago.
    In 1970 I went to India and Nepal for the first time with a pair of M4s and 21-50-90 glass.
    Later trips during 1971,72,73,76,77 were with Barnacks and 35-50-90mm lenses. I liked the compactness of the LTM cameras and their low cost. A used 3g with Elmar back then was $125, if you got robbed it would be less to loose.
    Then in 2005 after many years traveling other areas I was back to see the South of India, an area I'd missed earlier. For camera gear I left the Leicas home and regretted it. I'd gotten rid of all the Barnacks and my babies the M4s were in bad need of a CLA. Ended up taking a little Canon c330 P&S, true minimalist, only 2MP. My galleries here on PN are full of images from these trips.
    Am hoping to produce a book with matching photos, shot about forty years apart in time, some with the same camera and lens. The M4s are freshly CLA'ed and now up to the job. It certainly would have been neat to use an M9 for backup rather than the X-100, but the dollar difference pays for the trip.
     
  42. It sure looks beautiful!
     
  43. never mind
     
  44. Glenn S., you actually bought an X-100?! You said it so nonchalantly I had to do a double take. Anyway, I am impressed with the image quality. I might pop on down to the old camera store today and see if there are an X-100s to pick up.
    I don't impress easily these days, but thanks to this thread, chicken fights notwithstanding, I am really and truly impressed enough to consider the X-100.
     
  45. Folks,
    If you want to argue about stuff, by all means, do so. As long as you stay within the general bounds of common decency and the site's guidelines, have at it.
    But posting private emails on a public forum as a way to continue an argument is not going to happen here.
    I have deleted the "email" posts and replies relating to them.
     
  46. Hey Josh, I respect what you do but I don't understand...as long as it is in "private email" it's okay to be insulting, name call and get away with it?
     
  47. If you feel that someone is harassing you through photo.net, you are free to contact me via the "contact us" link at the bottom of the page.
    But in general, I am not the email police. Everyone here is an adult and should know how to handle this sort of thing on their own. Crappy email isn't a "photo.net" issue. We've all gotten (and probably sent) mean spirited emails in the past completely independent of photo.net. There has to be a fairly serious history or example of malice before I would do anything like banning someone just based on email conversations.
     
  48. Alrighty, thanks for the clarification, Josh.
     
  49. Everyone here is an adult...​
    Josh, I understand the policy and I think you did the right thing. But I don't think that everyone here is behaving like an adult. I think it is pretty childish to complain about negativity and then call someone ignorant just because they have a different point of view (ie they think your camera is overpriced - or shall we say a bad value).
     
  50. How useful is the hybrid EVF in practice, compared to a normal OVF (which is rare enough nowadays)? Sounds like using it for focusing is marginal, but of course it could still be handy for quickly checking your framing without messing with the rear LCD. Killer feature or gimmick?
     
  51. For me, if manual focusing with the X100 is a pain, I'm not interested, and would probably rather go with a second hand M8.
     
  52. More and more is sounds like the Hexar AF. A pleasure if you don't ask for too much, a pain if you do.
     
  53. Nice looking little camera ... retro looking stuff is always fun.
    Kinda too bad one has to wade through all the useless argumentative posts to get any information ... like price and semantics bickering. It is what it is, and if you don't like it, don't buy one. "Should be $299." ... really? For a camera made this well? Early adopters with a bad case of the "wants and gimmes" are always going to pay a premium ... patient buyers will do better ... especially when the luster wears off and they move on to the next "want and gimme".
    It seems like a unique set of attributes that one can consider based on their needs. While, like the Leica X1, it isn't my cup of tea at any price, I can see the appeal. My assistant asked about a nice quality little range finder, and I wouldn't hesitate to point her to this as possibility for her budget ... once the price settles back to normal. She's young, and I don't think she has manually focused a lens in her life. Perfect : -)
     
  54. My main concerns with the X100 are the quite serious operational shortcomings reported by Luminous Landscape (manual focusing, ISO settings etc, there are several issues), as well as the power consumption by the optical finder. To me the main benefits of optical direct view finder are that it it bright, works well in sunlight, and does not use any power, and that is a big benefit in a power hungry and 100% battery dependent digital camera. But in the X100 it seems the optical finder consumes even more power than the electronic viewfinder.
    I am sure the image quality is great. So it is in X1 and GXR as well, each of which have their own operational issues, though the Ricoh seems to get the basics right pretty well. I think I will pass on this one, at least until/unless a new firmware fixes most of the button and menu related issues.
     
  55. Here is a question for you Marc, as a professional photographer. Suppose that next year Fuji Film comes out with a version of this camera with interchangeable lenses. Also suppose that version has an M mount or Leica M lenses can be attached via an adapter. Would you be interested in this camera then?
    Let me also ask: As a wedding photographer what do you think of the x-100 as a companion camera to your regular profession cameras (M9s as I recall)? I am thinking as a street photographer shooting discrete candids as I have with my Hexar.
    Good to have you visit the Leica & RF Forum. Pity about the chicken fight. They are almost as rare as chicken teeth these days here.
     
  56. The most important thing that I should have said earlier.
    For Bob Todrick. Thank you so very much, Bob, for taking the time to give us information about this very unique and seminal camera. I found it very valuable. It may well change my life as a photographer.
     
  57. The above is not good enough. Bob Todrick gave this forum the best thread we've had in months. He offered valuable insights. And for no good reason he was dumped on. What a bloody shame. As a lifetime subscriber to photo.net and a loyal Leica and RF correspondent I can only say that I am deeply sorry about this.
     
  58. Well thanks Alex.
    It's funny. As some will recall I was a very regular poster in days gone by, back in the first years of the Leica Forum here at photo.net. Didn't hang out much in the last few years after a home theft 'relieved' me of my beloved Leica's (IIIg, lenses plus Voigtlander R2's). Spent a couple of years shooting with the likes of Canon G9 and such trying to find a digital version of my Hexar/IIIg...pocketable but with great quality. None of the digi's I tried, including a brief foray into 4/3rds felt comfortable...I don't like 'pressing this button while spinning that wheel' to change the shutter speed.
    The X100 is the first digi that has what I need quality wise (I'm a Tri-X pushed kinda guy...not Kodachrome 25) and FELT like a mechanical viewfinder camera.
    So I thought I'd post my thoughts here. I had memories of photo.net as it used to be...one of the friendliest places on the web. In fact I remember the fun we used to poke at some of the other Leica sites...how pretentious they were and opinionated.
    Well darned if my post wasn't greeted with a slew of crap about how overpriced it was...how it couldn't be that good...my god...how it wasn't 'Leica'.
    I've checked back a few times and found there has been positive feedback...so I'll likely give it another go, and hope I just caught some people on an off day.
     
  59. Bob, if it's any consolation, I've been there. Would love to have to back on a regular basis. I have always admired your photography. Hope the x-100 will be good to you. May the lowlife who stole your cameras rot in Hell for all eternity for starters. Thanks for writing back.
     
  60. New (Norwegian) review : http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.akam.no%2Fartikler%2Ffujifilm_finepix_x100%2F93192%2F7&act=url
     
  61. Errm, 7 pages of what? My subscription to PN runs out in May, yay!
     
  62. I just think that some of the posters are giving more credit to Fuji than what is due.
    For example they brought this thing out thinking that it would just be a curio, a throwback from another time, they didnt even think that there would be demand for this.
    I read in a couple of articles that they were "shocked" at the response. Now if they act like a typical big company who has no idea what the market wants, then they will do the "right" thing and cancel this product promptly. Or make it "better" by making it more available for the main stream consumer, by making it into plastic and offering different colors to "modernize" it.
    If they actually are listening now to the market they will add a lens mount to the second gen camera. Think about it, how much easier design wise would it have been to make sans lens mount and get a working prototype out there.
    I guess the real question is, if they are so out of touch with the consumer what are those geeks in the back making that never sees the light of day?
    I would like to see a nice remake of their ST601
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  63. After one day, I can see this camera is fun to use. A fine companion to the MF rangefinder and Holga, and just right for making digital negatives for alt process.
    Suggestion, however, before running out and buying one, take a look at the DPReview piece, that lists an appendix of things that are illogical, mysterious, or stupid, about which much whining is to be heard. Some of it, is actually funny. (I guess I'm referring to the whining.) About the camera's shortcomings: so what? There's workarounds.
    Oh, but that viewfinder...delivered as promised, more than I'd hoped for...great in the blazing sun, as in the dark of night...and it even takes a screw-in cable release.
     
  64. Bob! glad you enjoyed your camera. ALways good to shoot with something you like. That's all it matters.
     

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