Sanford Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just received an email update to a question I asked on DPR Forums TWENTY years ago. Data lives forever... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTriplett Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Just received an email update to a question I asked on DPR Forums TWENTY years ago. Data lives forever... Hence: Be careful what you post. It may come back to haunt you in ways and at times never imagined! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) "Hence: Be careful what you post. It may come back to haunt you in ways and at times never imagined! "David. Jeez, I've just sht my bed. Have you sht yours, David. Edited May 21, 2020 by Allen Herbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Best change our names. Me, Buddha, you can be Michael Jackson. Cool names or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTriplett Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I simply don't post things I might regret. This has the added benefit of giving the impression that I am polite and considerate. :):rolleyes: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Methinks, a few regrets are good for the soul. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It is official. David has not sht his bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTriplett Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) (I also try not to post when my judgement is impaired. It helps, a lot!):rolleyes: Edited May 22, 2020 by DavidTriplett 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 That's good, David. A proper sensible person .A David. An example of sensible/goodness for proper folk;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Edith Piaf ... was one of the greats. So is Bette Midler ... "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTriplett Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hence: Be careful what you post. It may come back to haunt you in ways and at times never imagined! I'm reminded of an occasion when my daughter was in high school. The assignment in her civics class was to make a plan for world government, and then support the plan. In jest, being the super over-achiever that she is, and always looking for a way to take people out of their comfort zones, she proposed a dictatorship along with the means and methods of obtaining and maintaining power, all based on historic precedent. Conceptually and politically appalling, but fascinating from a purely academic perspective. She got an "A+". The teacher wanted her to make the presentation again, so he could video it and share it. We, her parents, said "no". There's no way to predict how a recording of that presentation might be construed or subverted to hurt her in the future, so no question about it. Don't give one's enemies ammunition. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanford Posted May 22, 2020 Author Share Posted May 22, 2020 Aren't there companies that will clean up your history if you, lets say, wanted to run for president or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) I'm reminded of an occasion when my daughter was in high school. The assignment in her civics class was to make a plan for world government, and then support the plan. In jest, being the super over-achiever that she is, and always looking for a way to take people out of their comfort zones, she proposed a dictatorship along with the means and methods of obtaining and maintaining power, all based on historic precedent. Conceptually and politically appalling, but fascinating from a purely academic perspective. She got an "A+". The teacher wanted her to make the presentation again, so he could video it and share it. We, her parents, said "no". There's no way to predict how a recording of that presentation might be construed or subverted to hurt her in the future, so no question about it. Don't give one's enemies ammunition. I completely understand your point of view as a parent. It’s just too bad irony and satire seem to be dying. Would that we, the people, could figure out ways to preserve creativity and thinking outside the box in a world that can use anything against us, from our own words and deeds taken out of context to utter fabrications posing as realities. An advantage of my being older is no longer caring about ‘reputation’ and others’ wanton and sometimes willful misperceptions about me. An advantage of youth is that sense of rebelliousness coupled with the wisdom and creativity your daughter showed. In high school, she still needs and deserves your protection. Soon, she will be beyond its reach to a greater extent and will balance her own temperament against the guidance she got from her parents. One can only hope for the kids of today the ability to protect themselves in this crazy world of Internet history balanced with the ability to speak and express in ways such as she may be showing a proclivity for. It would be a shame to let the Internet destroy us either by taking us out of context or by suppressing us by its ability to do so. The solution eludes me. Edited May 22, 2020 by samstevens 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Peebles Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I completely understand your point of view as a parent. It’s just too bad irony and satire seem to be dying. Would that we, the people, could figure out ways to preserve creativity and thinking outside the box in a world that can use anything against us, from our own words and deeds taken out of context to utter fabrications posing as realities. An advantage of my being older is no longer caring about ‘reputation’ and others’ wanton and sometimes willful misperceptions about me. An advantage of youth is that sense of rebelliousness coupled with the wisdom and creativity your daughter showed. In high school, she still needs and deserves your protection. Soon, she will be beyond its reach to a greater extent and will balance her own temperament against the guidance she got from her parents. One can only hope for the kids of today the ability to protect themselves in this crazy world of Internet history balanced with the ability to speak and express in ways such as she may be showing a proclivity for. It would be a shame to let the Internet destroy us either by taking us out of context or by suppressing us by its ability to do so. The solution eludes me. "The solution eludes me." Perhaps shutting down social media so the screwballs won't have a forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Perhaps shutting down social media so the screwballs won't have a forum? No. "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Wall Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Never write anything you don't want to see on page one of the newspaper. (Axiom, working in a public office.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Yes, stuff on the Internet is indeed one's forever legacy. I try hard to follow the same rules I follow in the real world: don't say anything that you wouldn't say otherwise. Too many people, perhaps majority, become somebody they are not, when they "mount" their keyboard. A friend, who travels around the world by motorcycle constantly (or near constantly, as the case may be) always has folks he "knows" from The Internet Inviting him to stop by as he passes thru. I remember him talking about it once, saying, words to the effect of, "I get to meet a lot of people in my travels and some of them turn out to be exactly who they seem to be online". The internet, IMO, is like alcohol: if it turns you into something you don't otherwise appear to be, then you really ARE that "something" (and your "real" self is a complete fake, a show, a sham). In other words, it doesn't bring out anything that wasn't already there; nobody "turns into" something they're not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 nobody "turns into" something they're not Tell that to Gregor Samsa! _____________________________ Anyway, one of the themes Kafka might have been taking on was conformity (to what society wants us to be). As sad as it is that the Internet can haunt us for behavior outside what’s considered acceptable or the norm, it would be just as or even more sad if it had the effect of our shutting ourselves down from offering alternative, satirical, or rebellious voices. To self-stifle sometimes less controlled passionate speech isn’t always a benefit. _____________________________ I often look for just this kind of voice in art and photography ... the controversial, the voice burning with emotion, pushing against the mere satisfactory and tedious norm. So, on this site at least, if not in our writing, I appreciate it when it comes through in photographs. 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled - because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are called patience and forbearance." Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Democracy is a fragile flower. Unless regularly watered it will fade and die. Fear is the disease, and comes in many disguises ; the first of the flowers to fall is the fear of free speech. Edited May 27, 2020 by Allen Herbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Time for a photo. Hey, is that what some of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "Hence: Be careful what you post. It may come back to haunt you in ways and at times never imagined" David. Fear. Fear of the society you live in. That is how it started in Nazi Germany. Fear...... "I follow in the real world: don't say anything that you wouldn't say otherwise" Ricochetride Fear, the opium of the oppressor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Time for a photo. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Cool photo or what. Leica ancient X Vario,; still the best of technical images I've seen....read the story of the cam, to understand, Philistines. You need to spend serious money on Leica M lenses to match it. Really. You nerds need to do a little bit of research to find our why. Hey, I'm not your suckling nanny.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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