andrew_kleinfeld Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 I developed some Agfa 25 in Xtol, and scanned the black and white negatives in a flatbed scanner at 3200 dpi. The 4 x 6'x are excellent, even with no special mount, and the negatives inside a transparent 4 x 5 film envelope. Even the 5 x 7's are not bad. But oddly, the unsharp mask seems to make the prints worse instead of better. The unsharp mask gives me golfball grain. Is this true grain or noise? Has anyone found a good way to scan black and white negatives, sharpen them, yet avoid the extreme appearance of grain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 If you want less grain, try Kodak Technical Pan, with which you can get 8x10" with no visible grain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_zimmermann Posted March 11, 2005 Share Posted March 11, 2005 Black and white does not scan at all well and demand a lot of afterscan image processing magic to squeeze something reasonable out of them. Agfa 25 is even among B&W materials among the worst to scan--- the fine grain induces a lot of noise. I think you would have better luck with Kodak BW400CN masked chromogenic negative or Agfa Scala diapositive materials. These, unfortunately, are not available in factory slit cartridges--- many of us have little gadgets that let us slit film for our cameras (ranging from homebrew to the cheap ZipSlits to the nice but expensive Acmel/Minox slitters). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonykosky Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 The problem could be your scanner software. I've been using a 4000 dpi film scanner (Nikon Coolscan 4000ED) to scan b&w minox films (mostly APX 25 developed in Emofin). At first I had very poor results using the Nikon software. After some research I found that the problem is that the software is designed for colour negatives and assumes a masked negative even for b&w. I then switched to vuescan (from www.hamrick.com) which seems to be able to get a lot more out of the negatives - even badly under or over exposed negatives. I haven't had problems applying unsharp masks, but have generally used only very small amounts of sharpening, if any. -Anthony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I use Canon FS4000 film scanner to scan Minox negative at 4000 dpi, for now I use the Photoshop LE software bundled with the scanner, the results are ok for me. <P> <center> <img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2424238-md.jpg"border=3><P> <img src="http://www.photo.net/bboard/image.tcl?bboard_upload_id=18263084"border=3><P> <P> Camera: Minox C<P> Film: Kodak Techincal Pan<P> Developer: 1+100 Rodinal<P> Scanner: Canon Fs4000.<p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angus_mccallum Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Anthony, Martin, How do you scan 8x11 negs with either the Nikon Coolscan or the CanoScan FS4000? I've looked at both those models and been put off, precisely because they don't 'do' submini. Have you rigged some kind of adapter? I'd love to learn more. Thanks -- Angus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 It is easy to make a Minox 8x11 mask( or Edixa 16) mask for Canonscan FS4000 (or other brands), using a piece of paper (about the thickness of three copy paper) see diagram: <center> <img src="http://www.photo.net/bboard/image.tcl?bboard_upload_id=18322484"border=8> <P><P>Mask for Minox 8x11 negative<P> </center> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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