ian green Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 i am choosing between these two lens to add some tele lens to my starting collection<br> using film Minolta Maxxum 5 body for landscape nature travel photography<br> i've found good reviews on 70-210/4 in the archived forum posts<br> but 100-200 have 49mm filter mount which i can use for all collected filters<br> i am writing this in search of personal opinions experience and may be some examples<br> mostly interested in durability of those lenses in the field ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmorgan Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Ian, <br><br> I put a sample of the 70-210 F4 for you to look at <a href="http://www.photo.net/ photodb/folder?folder_id=574208">here</a>. The camera was a 7D, hand held, with the image stabilizer running.(*) <br><br> I can't compare the two lens, but maybe this sample will be useful to you. In terms of durability, the 70-210 is built (and weighs) like a tank; it could double as a field expedient weapon, should need arise :-) <br><br> In general, I have been pretty happy using the older Minolta lenses purchase used. I like the look they give images. The main drawback to this one can be slow or cranky auto focus. <br><br>    ....Tom M <br><br> (*)If you are wondering where I got the model, I happened to be down under the Manhattan Bridge and came across a commercial shoot. It offered a nice test of the lens and the image stabilizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 21, 2006 Author Share Posted February 21, 2006 Thomas, i checked your sample image & it is something i hoped to get here<br> +1 for the Minolta AF 70-210/4 side<br> slow AF is not bothering me as i usually MF<br> and "should need arise" i hope to threaten some bears with it away ;)<br> thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 They're chalk and cheese. The 70-210 is huge and heavy. Brilliantly sharp at all apertures and lengths. Recommended++ The 100-200 is small and light. Brilliant at 100 but not very good at 200mm. Good travel lens, but the 100-300 apo D is a better lens at all lengths except 100mm. Slightly bigger but similar weight. So from home 70-210, for travel 100-300 (100-200 very much second choice). Hope this helps. I own, use and have tested properly all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 ps don't bother with 49mm threads. Most minoltas use a 55mm. So get this size and use a step up ring if you have any 49mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_rice Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hi Ian, My mileage varies. No doubt The 70-210 is a good lens but it has a cult status I'm not quite on board with. First off, being a hiker and backpacker, my lenses will all be compact and light. It's a requirement. The 70-210 would stay home in a closet. It's a monster. I've had the 100-300 APO D and was not satistfied with it at the long end, so sold it. I now have the 100-200 f4.5 and think it's one of the best values I ever gotten. Regardless of comments that it's "not very good at the long end," my sample has been spectacular at the long end, the short end and at most any aperture. I am amazed at what a sleeper this lens is especially for the price. Here are some sample test shots a guy posted in another forum for the 100-200, two 70-210s and the 100-300 APO. http://www.dyxum.com/dforum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2017&PN=8 Decide for yourself. The 70-210 is a good lens but I don't see why it's better than the 100-200, especially at the size and weight and price. I just don't see a heck of a lot of difference, especially in actual photos and can't be bothered with all the hype. My 100-200 takes pictures in locations a 70-210 would never see the light of day. I do that have that lens in the older MD version and it is a good lens but not magic. ("heresy" they say...) Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machts gut Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I just love my 70-210!!! Sharp and beautiful bokeh. Stefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 thank you everybody for your comments and provided sample links<br> really there's some more data to consider before parting with cash<br><br> as some of you use(d) those lenses let me ask one more question:<br> what can you say about manual focusing of 70-210/4 100-200/4.5 and 100-300?<br> i saw some comments about not handy focus on 70-210.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 All minolta af lenses have rather narrow manual focus rings. You just have to get used to where they've put them. The 100-200 is probably easiest simply because it's the smallest. Not a lot to choose between them on this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Ivan, do you mean "All minolta af" <b>zoom</b> "lenses"?<br> i am using AF 50/1.7 and 28/2.8 and manual focusing is easy<br> (that is my reason to look for 49mm filter mount at first) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted February 23, 2006 Share Posted February 23, 2006 Ian, well yes zooms are worse but... If you compare the old manual focus lenses with the AF, they are hugely nicer to focus manually. They have large thick rings covered in rubber or knurled metal. The AF lenses have small plastic rings that although some are better than others, none are that great. In addition the length of travel of AF lenses is much less, so they are harder to focus accuractely. Manual focusing is generally more accurate than AF anyway. I sometimes wonder why I bother with AF, as I mainly shoot landscape and the AF on my Dynax 7 is almost permanently switched off. Still, nice when you occasionally need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian green Posted February 24, 2006 Author Share Posted February 24, 2006 well i figure i am stuck with Minolta Dynax 5 as it is small and light weight and equipped with spot meter<br> (and it is still alive after several seasons in the field/taiga)<br> it is my first and only SLR body and i doubt i can switch back to some older Minolta model<br> certainly i'd prefer some older mechanic model but lens choice for any Minolta model is very limited in Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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