pico_digoliardi Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 So far I don't see problems, but some huge opportunities!<p> The cure to the M8 IR problem appears to be a specific IR filter such as the B&W brand #486. I can live with that! Such sensitivity also opens the door to interesting applications for deeper IR imaging. That's a very good thing, IMHO. (If they would do the same for their SLR I would jump on the opportunity to use IR to cut haze for very long lens work.)<p> My day job includes coding digital imaging applications and I already have some stand-alone code (droplets) that apply certain correction curves based upon EXIF data or user input should the EXIF not exist. I would need some scientific quality high-resolution samples of M8 images for specific lenses. <i>And I am positive there are better programmers than I who are already making such applications.</i> Adobe could jump on this opportunity to come up with some slick scripts and plugins. Imagine how good it would be for Adobe to be coupled to mentions of Leica's M8.<p> <p>Also, if someone could get just one high-resolution picture of the lens coding, and its dimensions we could cut stickers to put on our older lenses. With the codes we can automate the application of adjustments based upon EXIF data.<p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 Oh, FWIW, EXIF data can be added to existing images, or to DNG data. So, for example if I were to shoot a lot of pictures with an uncoded lens, I could just batch the addition of data in the blink of an eye. So far, I see no problems except noodling out just exactly what postprocessing needs to be done to accomodate specific lenses. I truly hope that Leica isn't messing with the images in-camera before writing the DNG format. It would rather defeat the idea of RAW or DNG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Just had a quick look at a DNG from: http://www.outbackphoto.com/reviews/equipment/leica_m8/Leica_M8_review.html in ExifTool. As it's a DNG, even my old version of ExifTool can read (and presumably write) many of the tags, including (e.g.) focal length and shutter speed. I don't think coding stickers would work well - isn't the code on the surface of the lens mount, where the fit to the camera is very tight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Not promising in software... Due to expanded spectral sensitivity, the sensor apparently translates IR to visible magenta. Once sampled and out of the sensor, software can not differentiate genuine magenta objects from those that are black but misinterpreted as magenta. Kind of like aliasing; once the damage is done, you (software) can't tell the real from the fake... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinay_patel Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Brad you seem to know your stuff regarding these sensors, so if you can, answer a question that's been bugging me. All this talk about the magenta cast seems to have eclipsed the green reflections of bright lights and the streaks from bright lights. Those seem (to my reasonably intelligent but digitally-uninformed mind)like they could be related to the sensor and/or it's cover. So wouldn't it be likely that if those need to be changed to solve the ghosting and streaking, Leica might just as well change to a slightly stronger IR filter on the sensor at the same time? Kill all 3 birds at once, no silly front-filter band-aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 <i>Not promising in software... Due to expanded spectral sensitivity, the sensor apparently translates IR to visible magenta. </i><p> Good thought. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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