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<p>A cursory search on a few Nikon groups yielded the following list of lenses and adapters successfully converted with 'Dandelion' AF metering chips. Unless indicated otherwise lenses are Nikkors.<br />[g] means gluing only required, [m] means machining needed, (1),(2),... are the references below.<br /><br />generic T-mount adapter (1) <br />AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC (7)<br />20/3.5 AIS [g] (2)<br />24/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />24/2.8 N.C. [g] +AI conversion (5)<br />28/2 AIS [g] (3)<br />28/2.8 AIS [g] (2)<br />35/1.4 AI [m] (9)<br />35/2 AIS [g] shim, but no machining (1)<br />35/2 [m] (8)<br />35/2 'MIR 24-H' [g] (4)<br />35/2 ZF 35mm f.2.0 Zeiss [m] (6)<br />35/2.8 AIS [g] glue+radial shim (5)<br />50/1.4 AIS [g] (5)<br />50/1.8 AIS [m] (2)<br />55/2.8 macro {micro?} [g] (8)<br />55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor [g] +AI conversion (9)<br />70-210 Angenieux [m] (8)<br />75-150/3.5 E [m] (2)<br />85/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />85/2 [g] (8)<br />100/2.8 E [m] (1,2)<br />105/2.5 AIS [m] (5,8)<br />105/2.8 micro AIS [g] (3)<br />135/2.8 AIS [m] (5)<br /> 200/4 AIS [m] (5)<br /> 300/4.5 AI [m] (5)<br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>References:</strong><br />--------------------<br /><br /><em>from dpreview.com:</em><br /><br /><strong>1)</strong> 'jl22182': "I've used these chips on a 100E f/2.8, a 35 f/2 and a generic T-mount adapter." (same thread as below)<br />"AI-S Nikon 35 f/2. Bit of a tedious process as I had to shim the chip to get the contacts in the right position, but not really difficult. No surgery was necessary on the lens." (different thread)<br /><br /><strong>2)</strong>'Jpig': "I have chipped the following lenses and use them on a D40: 20mm 3.5 AIS, 28mm 2.8 AIS, 50mm 1.8 AIS, 100mm 2.8 E, 75-150mm 3.5 E. The 20mm and 28mm were easy and only needed to have the chip glued on. The others required some cutting to make room for the chip. "<br />pics (axial view of mount): <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515</a><br /><br /><strong>3)</strong> 'Alain x': "The only lenses I own that did not require any cutting are AIS 28mm/2 and Micro AIS 105mm/2,8. I installed the chip on the 28mm/2, and am happy with the result."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515</a><br /><br /><strong>4)</strong> 'chimpden' - 11/16/2010 : "I've chipped 3 lenses for use with my D90: Nikon 24mm F2 AI-s, Nikon 85mm F2 AI-s, and a Mir 24-H (35mm F2 Russian lens in Nikon mount). They were all quite easy to do as the geometry of their mounts was a perfect for the Dandelion without any modifications at all - just glue and go."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832</a><br /><br /><strong>5)</strong> 'Toby' NYC - 1/14/2011 : "This is my install of the "dandelion" chip on a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI-s lens. The install involved taking the mount apart and machining a piece of the mount center. The dandelion chip is epoxied to the mount center.<br />So far I've chipped the following Nikkors, 24mm f2.8 N.C. (along with converting it to AI) , a 50mm f1.4 AI-s, and a 35mm f2.8 AI-s."<br />one pic in <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158</a><br />Pictures of more chipped Nikkors:<br /><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais">http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais</a> ff.<br />lenses: machining: 105/2.5 AIS , 300/4.5 AI, 200/4 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS,<br />just glue: 50/1.4 AIS, 35/2.8 AIS (glue+radial shim), 24/2.8 NC,<br /><br /><strong>6)</strong> Livio Spallone - 7/1/2010 : "This morning the chip arrived and i installed it: 20 minutes work , one small cutter, one screwdriver, black epoxy glue.<br />Some things to know:<br />Zeiss made the bayonet ready for chipping ( two holes and screws already in the right place) but waited three years before coming out with the .2 version : they really SHOULD offer an upgrade part (black plastic lens "bottom" with chip installed). Installing requires good hands but ZF 35mm f.2.0 was easy to modify.<br />...<br />Note the holes and the screws , unused in this series, to chip the lens Nikon style (chip screwed to the lens bayonet mount). Chip so small it goes out of the metal lens mount, cut the plastic "bottom" cover of the lens."<br />one pic in <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997</a><br /><br /><em>from photo.net:</em><br /><br /><strong>7)</strong> Sem Svizec , Nov 14, 2011; 10:44 a.m. : "I got my $30 Dandelion from tagotech and have successfuly epoxied it to an AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC."<br /><a href="../nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><br /><strong>8)</strong> Laurent Schuler , Nov 16, 2011; 06:10 a.m. : "I made the conversion with a dandelion chip on following lenses :<br />55 /2.8 macro<br />85/2 On thoses two lens, there was no need to plane the lensbarrel.<br />On the 105 /2.5, 35/2, and angénieux 70-210, I had to plane the lensbarrel (There is a kind of black wall that has to be planed in order to place the chip in the right position."<br /><a href="../nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><br /><strong>9)</strong> Stefan Gruenendahl , Feb 1, 2012 http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z and Feb 4, 2012 http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z?start=18<br /><br /><strong>10)</strong> Pic showing Nikon chip circuits and connectors, taller than dandelion: http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00FKKC?start=13</p>
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<p><strong>Update:</strong> Ooops, almost forgot 'Rodeo Joe' !<br>

A cursory search on a few Nikon groups yielded the following list of lenses and adapters successfully converted with 'Dandelion' AF metering chips. Unless indicated otherwise lenses are Nikkors. <br />[g] means gluing only required, [m] means machining needed, (1),(2),... are the references below.<br /><br />generic T-mount adapter (1) <br />AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC (7)<br />20/3.5 AIS [g] (2)<br />24/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />24/2.8 N.C. [g] +AI conversion (5)<br />28/2 AIS [g] (3)<br />28/2.8 AIS [g] (2)<br />35/1.4 AI [m] (9)<br />35/2 AIS [g] shim, but no machining (1)<br />35/2 [m] (8)<br />35/2 'MIR 24-H' [g] (4)<br />35/2 ZF 35mm f.2.0 Zeiss [m] (6)<br />35/2.8 AIS [g] glue+radial shim (5)<br />50/1.4 AIS [g] (5)<br />50/1.8 AIS [m] (2)<br />55/2.8 macro {micro?} [g] (8)<br />55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor [g] +AI conversion (9)<br />70-210 Angenieux [m] (8)<br />75-150/3.5 E [m] (2,11)<br />85/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />85/2 [g] (8)<br />100/2.8 E [m] (1,2)<br>

105/1.8 AIS [m] (11)<br />105/2.5 AIS [m] (5,8)<br />105/2.8 micro AIS [g] (3)<br />135/2.8 AIS [m] (5)<br /> 200/4 AIS [m] (5)<br /> 300/4.5 AI [m] (5)<br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>References:</strong><br />--------------------<br /><em>from dpreview.com:</em><br /><strong>1)</strong> 'jl22182': "I've used these chips on a 100E f/2.8, a 35 f/2 and a generic T-mount adapter." (same thread as below)<br />"AI-S Nikon 35 f/2. Bit of a tedious process as I had to shim the chip to get the contacts in the right position, but not really difficult. No surgery was necessary on the lens." (different thread)<br /><strong>2)</strong>'Jpig': "I have chipped the following lenses and use them on a D40: 20mm 3.5 AIS, 28mm 2.8 AIS, 50mm 1.8 AIS, 100mm 2.8 E, 75-150mm 3.5 E. The 20mm and 28mm were easy and only needed to have the chip glued on. The others required some cutting to make room for the chip. "<br />pics (axial view of mount): <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>3)</strong> 'Alain x': "The only lenses I own that did not require any cutting are AIS 28mm/2 and Micro AIS 105mm/2,8. I installed the chip on the 28mm/2, and am happy with the result."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>4)</strong> 'chimpden' - 11/16/2010 : "I've chipped 3 lenses for use with my D90: Nikon 24mm F2 AI-s, Nikon 85mm F2 AI-s, and a Mir 24-H (35mm F2 Russian lens in Nikon mount). They were all quite easy to do as the geometry of their mounts was a perfect for the Dandelion without any modifications at all - just glue and go."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832</a><br /><strong>5)</strong> 'Toby' NYC - 1/14/2011 : "This is my install of the "dandelion" chip on a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI-s lens. The install involved taking the mount apart and machining a piece of the mount center. The dandelion chip is epoxied to the mount center.<br />So far I've chipped the following Nikkors, 24mm f2.8 N.C. (along with converting it to AI) , a 50mm f1.4 AI-s, and a 35mm f2.8 AI-s."<br />one pic in <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158</a><br />Pictures of more chipped Nikkors:<br /><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais">http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais</a> ff.<br />lenses: machining: 105/2.5 AIS , 300/4.5 AI, 200/4 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS,<br />just glue: 50/1.4 AIS, 35/2.8 AIS (glue+radial shim), 24/2.8 NC,<br /><strong>6)</strong> Livio Spallone - 7/1/2010 : "This morning the chip arrived and i installed it: 20 minutes work , one small cutter, one screwdriver, black epoxy glue. Some things to know:<br />Zeiss made the bayonet ready for chipping ( two holes and screws already in the right place) but waited three years before coming out with the .2 version : they really SHOULD offer an upgrade part (black plastic lens "bottom" with chip installed). Installing requires good hands but ZF 35mm f.2.0 was easy to modify. ... Note the holes and the screws , unused in this series, to chip the lens Nikon style (chip screwed to the lens bayonet mount). Chip so small it goes out of the metal lens mount, cut the plastic "bottom" cover of the lens."<br />one pic in <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997</a><br /><br /><em>from photo.net:</em><br /><strong>7)</strong> Sem Svizec , Nov 14, 2011; 10:44 a.m. : "I got my $30 Dandelion from tagotech and have successfuly epoxied it to an AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC."<br /><a href="00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>8)</strong> Laurent Schuler , Nov 16, 2011; 06:10 a.m. : "I made the conversion with a dandelion chip on following lenses :<br />55 /2.8 macro<br />85/2 On thoses two lens, there was no need to plane the lensbarrel.<br />On the 105 /2.5, 35/2, and angénieux 70-210, I had to plane the lensbarrel (There is a kind of black wall that has to be planed in order to place the chip in the right position."<br /><a href="00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>9)</strong> Stefan Gruenendahl , Feb 1, 2012 http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z and Feb 4, 2012 http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z?start=18<br /><strong>10)</strong> Pic showing Nikon chip circuits and connectors, taller than dandelion: http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00FKKC?start=13<strong></strong><br>

<strong>11)</strong> 'Rodeo Joe' , Nov 26, 2011 <a href="00ZeqZ">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZeqZ</a></p>

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<p><strong>Checking AI aperture nonlinearity</strong>, from a Sep. 2004 post by 'Ro Ro' in <a href="009KFX">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/009KFX</a> :<br>

<em>"Another thing: I had to adjust the aperture lever inside the lens to get correct apertures. This is easy to check: Set the camera to a known aperture and then press the DOF button and hold it. When you then rotate the aperture ring from 22 to open aperture the blades should start moving when the aperture values match."</em></p>

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<p>Dpreview thread with posts by '<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/9084241701">Toby NYC</a>' (chipping w/ pics), '<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/8102500903">Kent J</a>' (AI aperture response) and <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/5851432553">Joseph S Wisniewski</a> (aperture control, chip interaction with AF) : <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915</a></p>
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<p><strong>Updated list</strong> of lenses and adapters successfully converted with 'Dandelion' AF metering chips. Unless indicated otherwise lenses are Nikkors. <br />[g] means gluing only required, [m] means machining needed, (1),(2),... are the references below.<br /><br />generic T-mount adapter (1) <br />AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC (7)<br />20/3.5 AIS [g] (2)<br />24/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />24/2.8 N.C. [g] +AI conversion (5,13)<br>

24/2.8 AIS [g] (14)<br />28/2 AIS [g] (3)<br>

28/2.5 AIS (14)<br />28/2.8 AIS [g] (2,14)<br />35/1.4 AI [m] (9)<br />35/2 AIS [g] shim, but no machining (1)<br />35/2 [m] (8)<br />35/2 'MIR 24-H' [g] (4)<br />35/2 ZF 35mm f.2.0 Zeiss [m] (6)<br />35/2.8 AIS [g] glue+radial shim (5,13)<br />50/1.4 AIS [g] (5,13)<br />50/1.8 AIS [m] (2)<br />55/2.8 macro {micro?} [g] (8)<br>

55/2.8 micro [g] (14)<br />55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor [g] +AI conversion (9,14)<br />70-210 Angenieux [m] (8)<br />75-150/3.5 E [m] (2,11)<br />85/2 AIS [g] (4)<br />85/2 [g] (8)<br />100/2.8 E [m] (1,2)<br /> 105/1.8 AIS [m] (11)<br />105/2.5 AIS [m] (5,8,13,14)<br>

105/2.5 'P' AI'ed [g] (14)<br />105/2.8 micro AIS [g] (3)<br />135/2.8 AIS [m] (5,13)<br>

135/2.8 'Q' AI'ed [g] (14)<br /> 200/4 AIS [m] (5,13)<br /> 300/4.5 AI [m] (5,13)<br>

300/4.5 'H' AI'ed [g] (14)<br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>References:</strong><br />--------------------<br /><em>from dpreview.com:</em><br /><strong>1)</strong> 'jl22182': "I've used these chips on a 100E f/2.8, a 35 f/2 and a generic T-mount adapter." (same thread as below)<br />"AI-S Nikon 35 f/2. Bit of a tedious process as I had to shim the chip to get the contacts in the right position, but not really difficult. No surgery was necessary on the lens." (different thread)<br /><strong>2)</strong>'Jpig': "I have chipped the following lenses and use them on a D40: 20mm 3.5 AIS, 28mm 2.8 AIS, 50mm 1.8 AIS, 100mm 2.8 E, 75-150mm 3.5 E. The 20mm and 28mm were easy and only needed to have the chip glued on. The others required some cutting to make room for the chip. "<br />pics (axial view of mount): <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>3)</strong> 'Alain x': "The only lenses I own that did not require any cutting are AIS 28mm/2 and Micro AIS 105mm/2,8. I installed the chip on the 28mm/2, and am happy with the result."<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>4)</strong> 'chimpden' - 11/16/2010 : "I've chipped 3 lenses for use with my D90: Nikon 24mm F2 AI-s, Nikon 85mm F2 AI-s, and a Mir 24-H (35mm F2 Russian lens in Nikon mount). They were all quite easy to do as the geometry of their mounts was a perfect for the Dandelion without any modifications at all - just glue and go."<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832</a><br /><strong>5)</strong> 'Toby' NYC - 1/14/2011 : "This is my install of the "dandelion" chip on a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI-s lens. The install involved taking the mount apart and machining a piece of the mount center. The dandelion chip is epoxied to the mount center.<br />So far I've chipped the following Nikkors, 24mm f2.8 N.C. (along with converting it to AI) , a 50mm f1.4 AI-s, and a 35mm f2.8 AI-s."<br />one pic in <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158</a><br />Pictures of more chipped Nikkors:<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais" target="_blank">http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais</a> and ref.13 below.<br />lenses: machining: 105/2.5 AIS , 300/4.5 AI, 200/4 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS,<br />just glue: 50/1.4 AIS, 35/2.8 AIS (glue+radial shim), 24/2.8 NC,<br /><strong>6)</strong> Livio Spallone - 7/1/2010 : "This morning the chip arrived and i installed it: 20 minutes work , one small cutter, one screwdriver, black epoxy glue. Some things to know:<br />Zeiss made the bayonet ready for chipping ( two holes and screws already in the right place) but waited three years before coming out with the .2 version : they really SHOULD offer an upgrade part (black plastic lens "bottom" with chip installed). Installing requires good hands but ZF 35mm f.2.0 was easy to modify. ... Note the holes and the screws , unused in this series, to chip the lens Nikon style (chip screwed to the lens bayonet mount). Chip so small it goes out of the metal lens mount, cut the plastic "bottom" cover of the lens."<br />one pic in <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/message.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997</a><br /><br /><em>from photo.net:</em><br /><strong>7)</strong> Sem Svizec , Nov 14, 2011; 10:44 a.m. : "I got my $30 Dandelion from tagotech and have successfuly epoxied it to an AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC."<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>8)</strong> Laurent Schuler , Nov 16, 2011; 06:10 a.m. : "I made the conversion with a dandelion chip on following lenses :<br />55 /2.8 macro<br />85/2 On thoses two lens, there was no need to plane the lensbarrel.<br />On the 105 /2.5, 35/2, and angénieux 70-210, I had to plane the lensbarrel (There is a kind of black wall that has to be planed in order to place the chip in the right position."<br /><a rel="nofollow" href="00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>9)</strong> Stefan Gruenendahl , Feb 1, 2012 <a rel="nofollow" href="00Zx3Z">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z</a> and Feb 4, 2012 <a rel="nofollow" href="00Zx3Z?start=18">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z?start=18</a><br /><strong>10)</strong> Pic showing Nikon chip circuits and connectors, taller than dandelion: <a rel="nofollow" href="00FKKC?start=13">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00FKKC?start=13</a><strong> </strong><br /> <strong>11)</strong> 'Rodeo Joe' , Nov 26, 2011 <a rel="nofollow" href="00ZeqZ">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZeqZ</a><br>

<strong>12) Checking AI aperture nonlinearity</strong>, from a Sep. 2004 post by 'Ro Ro' in <a rel="nofollow" href="009KFX">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/009KFX</a> :<br /> <em>"Another thing: I had to adjust the aperture lever inside the lens to get correct apertures. This is easy to check: Set the camera to a known aperture and then press the DOF button and hold it. When you then rotate the aperture ring from 22 to open aperture the blades should start moving when the aperture values match."</em><br>

<strong>13) Dpreview thread</strong> on chipping with posts by '<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/9084241701" target="_blank">Toby NYC</a>' (chipping w/ pics), '<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/8102500903" target="_blank">Kent J</a>' (AI aperture response) and <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/5851432553" target="_blank">Joseph S Wisniewski</a> (aperture control, chip interaction with AF): <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915</a> ;see also ref. 5.<br>

<strong>14)</strong> More chipped lenses (some done by legacy2digital.com, but with integrated chips) at nikonian.org :<br /> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9qcmJ90RXjsJ:www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_topic%26forum%3D301%26topic_id%3D6334%26mesg_id%3D6334+" target="_blank">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9qcmJ90RXjsJ:www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_topic%26forum%3D301%26topic_id%3D6334%26mesg_id%3D6334+</a></p>

 

 

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<p>I forgot to add the lenses in this thread: <a href="../nikon-camera-forum/00WVip?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00WVip?start=10</a></p>

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<li>300/2.8 ED-IF AIs [g]</li>

<li>200/4 Micro AI [g]</li>

<li>24/2.8 AIs [g]</li>

<li>300/4.5 ED-IF AIs [g]</li>

<li>180/2.8 ED AIS [m]</li>

<li>105/4 Micro-Nikkor AI [m]</li>

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<p>50/1.2 AIS [m] <strong>(16)</strong> (<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/6682914308">janiksela</a> - 10/29/2010) : ""Where did you remove material from in order to get the chip in; from the side of the rear element or the back side of the chip?"-- from the side of the rear element and a little bit of the chip." <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1"> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1</a> (with pictures)<br /></p>
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<p>I chipped my 85/1.4 AIS: <a href="00a463">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00a463</a> .<br>

Clearances are a bit tight, but it's doable.<br>

I also started reshaping a chip for the 50/1.2, but I don't think it can be done without modifying the rear element mount. Does anybody know whether the rear element can be rotated, to gain some clearance at the chip location? </p>

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<p><a href="http://www.nikon-fotografie.de/vbulletin/1722825-post167.html">http://www.nikon-fotografie.de/vbulletin/1722825-post167.html </a>(in german) contains a long list of chipped Nikkors (and a few others). 'nur kleben' = gluing only = [g] ; 'kleben und feilen' = filing and gluing = [m]; ?? = no reports of chipping found.</p>

<p>Nikon:<br /> Nikkor 13 mm 1:5.6 AI-S: ??<br /> Nikkor 15 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 16 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: ??<br /> Nikkor 18 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 20 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: ??<br /> Nikkor 20 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 24 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 24 mm 1:2.0 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 28 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: ??<br /> Nikkor 28 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 28 mm 1:2.0 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 35 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 35 mm 1:2.0 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 35 mm 1:1.4 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.8 AI-S: kleben und feilen - "Japan" S.Nr. 20..-22.. n. kleben<br /> Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.4 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 50 mm 1:1.2 AI-S: noch keine Möglichkeit der Modifikation gefunden<br /> Nikkor 85 mm 1:2.0 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Nikkor 85 mm 1:1.4 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 105 mm 1:2.5 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 105 mm 1:1.8 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 135 mm 1:2.0 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 135 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 135 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: ??<br /> Nikkor 180 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 200 mm 1:4.0 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 300 mm 1:2.8 AI: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikkor 300 mm 1:4,5 AI: kleben und feilen<br /> Micro-Nikkor 55 mm 1:2.8 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Micro-Nikkor 105 mm 1:2.8 Ai-S: feilen und kleben<br /> Micro-Nikkor 105 mm 1:4.0 Ai-S: feilen und kleben<br /> Micro-Nikkor 200 mm 1:4.0 AI-S: kleben und feilen bzw. sägen<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 25-50 mm 1:4.0 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-70 mm 1:3.5 AI: nur kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-70 mm 1:3.5 AI-S: feilen und kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-70 mm 1:3.3-4.5 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-70 mm 1:3.5-4.8 AI-S: feilen und kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-105 mm 1:3.5-4.5 AI-S: nur kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 35-135 mm 1:3.5-4.5AI-S: feilen und kleben<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 mm 1:4.0 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Zoom-Nikkor 100-300 mm 1:5.6 AI-S: kleben und feilen<br /> Nikon Series E 28 mm 1:2.8 (mit silbernem Ring): nur kleben<br /> Nikon Series E 50 mm 1:1.8 (ohne silbernen Ring): nur kleben<br /> Nikon Series E 50 mm 1:1.8 (mit silbernem Ring): kleben und feilen<br /> Nikon Series E 100 mm 1:2.8 (ohne silbernen Ring): nur kleben<br /> Nikon Series E Zoom 36-72 mm 1:3,5: nur kleben<br /> Nikon Series E Zoom 75-150 mm 1:3,5: feilen und kleben<br /> <br /> <br /> Fremdhersteller:<br /> Samyang 14 mm 1:2.8 ED AS IF UMC: kleben und feilen<br /> Tokina 24 mm 1:2.8 (AI-S): nur kleben (nach Entfernen einer leicht<br /> erhabenen Schraube im schwarzen Ring)<br /> Kiron 105 mm 1:2,8 Macro (AI-S): Feilen und Kleben</p>

 

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<p><strong>Update 2-March-2012: list of lenses and adapters successfully converted with 'Dandelion' AF metering chips</strong>. Unless indicated otherwise lenses are Nikkors. <br />[g] means gluing only required, [m] means machining needed, (1),(2),... are the references below. Note that there is some contradictory information for a few lenses.<br /><br /><br /> <strong>Nikkor:</strong><br /> 15/3.5 AIS [g] (18)<br /> 18/3.5 AIS [g] (18)<br />20/3.5 AIS [g] (2)<br /> 20/2.8 AIS [g] (18)<br />24/2.0 AIS [g] (4,18)<br />24/2.8 N.C. [g] +AI conversion (5,13)<br /> 24/2.8 AIS [g] (14,15,18)<br /> 25-50/4.0 AIS [g] (18)<br />28/2.0 AIS [g] (3,18)<br /> 28/2.5 AIS (14)<br />28/2.8 AIS [g] (2,14,18)<br /> 28/2.8 E (silver ring) [g] (18)<br />35/1.4 AI [m] (9)<br />35/1.4 AIS [m] (18)<br />35/2.0 AIS [g] shim, but no machining (1,18)<br />35/2.0 [m] (8)<br />35/2.8 AIS [g] glue+radial shim (5,13,18)<br /> 35-70/3.5 AI [g] (18)<br /> 35-70/3.5 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 35-70/3.3-3.5 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 35-70/3.5-4.8 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 35-105/3.5-4.5 AIS [g] (18)<br /> 35-135/3.5-4.5 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 36-72/3.5 E [g] (18)<br /> 50/1.2 AIS [m] (16) <br />50/1.4 AIS [g] (5,13)<br /> 50/1.4 AIS [m] (18)<br />50/1.8 AIS [m] (2,18)<br /> 50/1.8 AIS 'Japan' (S/N 20.. to 22.. - 'pancake'(?)) [g] (18)<br /> 50/1.8 E (no silver ring) [g] (18)<br /> 50/1.8 E (silver ring) [m] (18)<br /> 55/2.8 macro {micro?} [g] (8)<br /> 55/2.8 micro [g] (14)<br /> 55/2.8 micro AIS [g] (18)<br />55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor [g] +AI conversion (9,14)<br />75-150/3.5 E [m] (2,11,18)<br /> 80-200/4.0 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 85/1.4 AIS [m] (17,18)<br />85/2.0 AIS [g] (4,18)<br />85/2.0 [g] (8)<br />100/2.8 E [m] (1,2)<br /> 100/2.8 E (no silver ring) [g] (18)<br /> 100-300/5.6 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 105/1.8 AIS [m] (11,18)<br />105/2.5 AIS [m] (5,8,13,14,18)<br /> 105/2.5 'P' AI'ed [g] (14)<br />105/2.8 micro AIS [g] (3)<br /> 105/2.8 micro AIS [m] (18)<br /> 105/4.0 micro AI [m] (15)<br /> 105/4.0 micro AIS [m] (18)<br /> 135/2.0 AIS [m] (18)<br />135/2.8 AIS [m] (5,13,18)<br /> 135/2.8 'Q' AI'ed [g] (14)<br /> 180/2.8 AIS [m] (18)<br /> 180/2.8 ED AIS [m] (15)<br /> 200/4.0 AIS [m] (5,13,18)<br /> 200/4.0 micro AI [g] (15)<br /> 200/4.0 micro AIS [m] (18)<br /> 300/2.8 AI [m] (18)<br /> 300/2.8 ED-IF AIs [g] (15)<br /> 300/4.5 AI [m] (5,13,18)<br /> 300/4.5 'H' AI'ed [g] (14)<br /> 300/4.5 ED-IF AIs [g] (15)</p>

<p><strong>Non-Nikkor:</strong><br /> generic T-mount adapter (1) <br />Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC (AIS) (7)<br /> Samyang 14/2.8 ED AS IF UMC [m] (18)<br /> Tokina 24/2.8 (AI-S) [g] (18) ('after removal of slightly prominent screw on black ring')<br /> Mir 35/2.0 'MIR 24-H' [g] (4)<br />Zeiss 35/2.0 ZF 35mm f.2.0 Zeiss [m] (6)<br /> Angenieux 70-210 [m] (8)<br /> Kiron 105/2.8 Macro (AI-S) [m] (18) <br /><br /><br /><br /><strong>References:</strong><br />--------------------<em></em><br /><strong>1)</strong> 'jl22182': "I've used these chips on a 100E f/2.8, a 35 f/2 and a generic T-mount adapter." (same thread as ref.2)<br />"AI-S Nikon 35 f/2. Bit of a tedious process as I had to shim the chip to get the contacts in the right position, but not really difficult. No surgery was necessary on the lens." (different thread)<br /><strong>2)</strong>'Jpig': "I have chipped the following lenses and use them on a D40: 20mm 3.5 AIS, 28mm 2.8 AIS, 50mm 1.8 AIS, 100mm 2.8 E, 75-150mm 3.5 E. The 20mm and 28mm were easy and only needed to have the chip glued on. The others required some cutting to make room for the chip. "<br />pics (axial view of mount): <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37326759&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>3)</strong> 'Alain x': "The only lenses I own that did not require any cutting are AIS 28mm/2 and Micro AIS 105mm/2,8. I installed the chip on the 28mm/2, and am happy with the result."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37334086&thread=37302515</a><br /><strong>4)</strong> 'chimpden' - 11/16/2010 : "I've chipped 3 lenses for use with my D90: Nikon 24mm F2 AI-s, Nikon 85mm F2 AI-s, and a Mir 24-H (35mm F2 Russian lens in Nikon mount). They were all quite easy to do as the geometry of their mounts was a perfect for the Dandelion without any modifications at all - just glue and go."<br /><a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1034&parent=36932522&thread=35577832</a><br /><strong>5)</strong> 'Toby' NYC - 1/14/2011 : "This is my install of the "dandelion" chip on a Nikkor 105mm f2.5 AI-s lens. The install involved taking the mount apart and machining a piece of the mount center. The dandelion chip is epoxied to the mount center.<br />So far I've chipped the following Nikkors, 24mm f2.8 N.C. (along with converting it to AI) , a 50mm f1.4 AI-s, and a 35mm f2.8 AI-s."<br />one pic in <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&parent=37456165&thread=36532158</a><br />Pictures of more chipped Nikkors:<br /><a href="http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/9084241701/photos/944489/105f2-5_ais</a> and ref.13 below.<br />lenses: machining: 105/2.5 AIS , 300/4.5 AI, 200/4 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS,<br />just glue: 50/1.4 AIS, 35/2.8 AIS (glue+radial shim), 24/2.8 NC,<br /><strong>6)</strong> Livio Spallone - 7/1/2010 : "This morning the chip arrived and i installed it: 20 minutes work , one small cutter, one screwdriver, black epoxy glue. Some things to know:<br />Zeiss made the bayonet ready for chipping ( two holes and screws already in the right place) but waited three years before coming out with the .2 version : they really SHOULD offer an upgrade part (black plastic lens "bottom" with chip installed). Installing requires good hands but ZF 35mm f.2.0 was easy to modify. ... Note the holes and the screws , unused in this series, to chip the lens Nikon style (chip screwed to the lens bayonet mount). Chip so small it goes out of the metal lens mount, cut the plastic "bottom" cover of the lens."<br />one pic in<a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&parent=35698660&thread=35697997</a><br /><strong>7)</strong> Sem Svizec , Nov 14, 2011; 10:44 a.m. : "I got my $30 Dandelion from tagotech and have successfuly epoxied it to an AI-s Vivitar 2x macro focusing TC." <a href="../nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>8)</strong> Laurent Schuler , Nov 16, 2011; 06:10 a.m. : "I made the conversion with a dandelion chip on following lenses :<br />55 /2.8 macro<br />85/2 On thoses two lens, there was no need to plane the lensbarrel.<br />On the 105 /2.5, 35/2, and angénieux 70-210, I had to plane the lensbarrel (There is a kind of black wall that has to be planed in order to place the chip in the right position."<br /><a href="00ZatY?start=10" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZatY?start=10</a><br /><strong>9)</strong> Stefan Gruenendahl , Feb 1, 2012 <a href="00Zx3Z" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z</a> and Feb 4, 2012 <a href="00Zx3Z?start=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00Zx3Z?start=18</a><br /><strong>10)</strong> Pic showing Nikon chip circuits and connectors, taller than dandelion: <a href="00FKKC?start=13" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00FKKC?start=13</a><strong> </strong><br /> <strong>11)</strong> 'Rodeo Joe' , Nov 26, 2011 <a href="00ZeqZ" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00ZeqZ</a><br /> <strong>12) Checking AI aperture nonlinearity</strong>, from a Sep. 2004 post by 'Ro Ro' in <a href="009KFX" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/009KFX</a> :<br /> <em>"Another thing: I had to adjust the aperture lever inside the lens to get correct apertures. This is easy to check: Set the camera to a known aperture and then press the DOF button and hold it. When you then rotate the aperture ring from 22 to open aperture the blades should start moving when the aperture values match."</em><br /> <strong>13) Dpreview thread</strong> on chipping with posts by '<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/9084241701" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Toby NYC</a>' (chipping w/ pics), '<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/8102500903" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Kent J</a>' (AI aperture response) and <a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/5851432553" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Joseph S Wisniewski</a> (aperture control, chip interaction with AF): <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&thread=37838915</a> ;see also ref. 5.<br /> <strong>14)</strong> More chipped lenses (some done by legacy2digital.com, but with integrated chips) at nikonian.org :<br /> <a href="http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9qcmJ90RXjsJ:www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_topic%26forum%3D301%26topic_id%3D6334%26mesg_id%3D6334+" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9qcmJ90RXjsJ:www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php%3Faz%3Dshow_topic%26forum%3D301%26topic_id%3D6334%26mesg_id%3D6334+</a><br /> <strong>15)</strong> David L. et al., Dec. 2010: <a href="00WVip?start=10" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00WVip?start=10</a><br /> <strong>16)</strong> 50/1.2 (<a href="http://www.dpreview.com/members/6682914308" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">janiksela</a> - 10/29/2010) : ""Where did you remove material from in order to get the chip in; from the side of the rear element or the back side of the chip?"-- from the side of the rear element and a little bit of the chip." <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">(http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1)</a> (with pictures, unfortunately not showing the modification to the rear element)<br /> <strong>17)</strong> 85/1.4 AIS, SG Feb.2012: <a href="00a463" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00a463</a> . Clearances are a bit tight, but it's doable.<br /> <strong>18)</strong> <a href="http://www.nikon-fotografie.de/vbulletin/1722825-post167.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.nikon-fotografie.de/vbulletin/1722825-post167.html </a>(in german) contains a long list of chipped Nikkors (and a few others).</p>

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<p>Update for the 50/1.2 AIS reference:<br>

<strong>16)</strong> 50/1.2 (Sami Jänikselä - 10/29/2010) : See <a href="http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1030&message=36768079&changemode=1</a>, and<a href="00a46L"> http://www.photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00a46L </a>for a picture of the modification to the rear cell.</p>

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<p>20/3.5 AI conversion (g)<br>

85/1.8 AI conversion (g)<br>

135/3.5 AI (m) EV unstable in 'G' mode. After toggle control option '60' stable but EV +1.5 overall.<br>

300/4.5 AI conversion (g) must check EV in 'G' mode<br>

MC Zenitar 16/2.8 AIS (m) small piece of (plastic) black protection plate must be removed.</p>

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<p>Has anybody made an EV/aperture comparison between before and after chipping an AI (converted).<br>

I've noticed that the 135/3.5 AI I've chipped needs a EV+1.5 correction compared to the lens before it was chipped (used as a "Non CPU lens" on my D700). <br />Both using the aperture ring on the lens to set the aperture value, NOT the dialcontrol on the camera (I allmost allways work in A mode).<br>

And if so, did you find a permanent solution for this EV deviation? Meaning without a manual correction on the camera, which I usually forget ;-)</p>

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I will only note that I have had a "misplaced" glue-on chip actually blow out the circuits in a camera. It completely discharged the battery into the camera.

 

Inspector Kemp: A riot is an ugly thing. And once you get one started, there is little chance of stopping it, short of bloodshed. I think, before we go around killing people, we had better make damned sure of our evidence.

 

I decided that the need for 'linking' up was outweighed by the risk for me, anyhow.

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You can add a 400mm f/5.6 IF-ED lens to that list. It requires some machining - or adept use of a file. See pic below.

 

WRT incorrect exposure after chipping: I suspect this is pretty common with pre Ai-S lenses due the non-linearity of the aperture movement. Also the aperture lever on AI or AI converted lenses looks considerably thicker than on Ai-S lenses, leading to an offset in the angle that the actuator in the camera has to move through for a given aperture. The lack of aperture linearity in AI/Pre-AI lenses is clearly noted in the Dandelion chip instructions.

 

Also I would never use anything but a good quality epoxy cement (specifically "Araldite") to fix a Dandelion chip to a lens.

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WRT incorrect exposure after chipping: I suspect this is pretty common with pre Ai-S lenses due the non-linearity of the aperture movement. Also the aperture lever on AI or AI converted lenses looks considerably thicker than on Ai-S lenses, leading to an offset in the angle that the actuator in the camera has to move through for a given aperture. The lack of aperture linearity in AI/Pre-AI lenses is clearly noted in the Dandelion chip instructions.

 

Yes, but user reg_eggen stated that he was using the aperture ring. I suspect he read and understood the warning about AI non-linearity. What then explains the exposure discrepancy? Not a rhetorical question; this is something that has mystified me since I read that warning myself. I wonder if the camera, "knowing" that the lens is a P (and thus also AI-S) lens, therefore does not fully depress the aperture control lever during an exposure, but only moves it to where it should be if the lens were AI-S.

 

BTW, great job on the installation in your photo! I've only taken a Dremel to one light baffle, and the result was sadly quite messy:

 

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I've only taken a Dremel to one light baffle, and the result was sadly quite messy:

I fear your mistake was to think a power tool would make a neater and more 'professional' looking job than hand tools.

 

A set of needle files and a junior hacksaw are much more controllable. The 'off switch' is instant and the tool doesn't run away and cut randomly on its own!

 

WRT non Ai-S lenses exposing incorrectly - a puzzle indeed. It could have something to do with the total non-linearity between the light coming through the viewing screen and the lens aperture. Opening any lens wider than f/1.8 makes absolutely no (zilch, zero, nada) difference to the screen brightness. And since the metering system is placed in the prism above the focussing screen..... well, personally I think there must be a telepathic link between Nikon's lenses and their metering system.

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