Lenses will not fit on new M7

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by bryan_hsieh, May 9, 2002.

  1. I just bought a new M7 and I discovered that my 35mm 2.0 ASPH and 50mm 2.0 ASPH will not fit on the camera body. These lenses fit on all my other M bodies, but not my M7. So much for quality control at Leica. Has anyone had a similar experience?
     
  2. Bryan:

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    What doesn't fit about the lens? Does it fit into the mount and not
    rotate, or does it not lock? Do you have any lenses that fit your M7?
     
  3. I've noticed that the lens mount feels tighter than on my M6's, but
    all the lenses fit OK.
     
  4. I noticed that the 90 M Elmarit I got recently is a much tighter fit
    on my M6TTL than on the M4-2. OTOH, all the rest of the lenses seem
    to fit just fine on either camera.
     
  5. All my lenses fit fine including the ones you mention
     
  6. There is a problem, so get it fixed.
     
  7. The lenses I mentioned will fit into the mount but they won't rotate
    and click into place. The ones that do fit are the 90mm 2.8, and
    the 135mm 4.0. Thanks for your respnoses.
     
  8. "50mm 2.0 ASPH " Surely a typo?
     
  9. All my lenses fit on both my M7's (35/1.4 ASPH, 50/1.0, 75/1.4,
    90/2.0 APO. Since it is new would suggest you have it checked

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    Good luck,
    Greg
     
  10. ? what's a 50/2.0 ASPH

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    I never heard of an M lens not fitting on a new Leica body. All of
    my my lens fit fine on my M7. In fact I have never experienced any M
    lens not fitting on any M body. Doesn't sound very likely.
     
  11. Hey, Bryan, in case you missed it, Dr. Rosen just called you a
    liar.
     
  12. Yeah, right!!!! Was this before or after your M7, along with all your
    "other M bodies," spontaneously melted into a puddle on your coffee
    table and then rematerialized as a group of butterflies, all with red
    spots? Good one...
     
  13. I respect people that give straight forward opinions and advice
    like, "fix it." I think people are mean spirited to make fun of
    Bryan or call him a liar. This place is almost like the LUG now. I
    suppose I am inviting attacks now, huh. Bring them on.
     
  14. Bill. Sorry, but Brian invited the comment when he said "So much for
    quality control at Leica". No, quality control at Solms is far from
    perfect, but a defective bayonet mount on a new M7 camera is outside
    of the realm of believability to me. I think Brian is "funning" with
    us. I jsut don't believe his post.

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    This is not the first time this has happened on this forum. There
    was the guy who kept on posting (and had many including me believe),
    that Leica was about to release a 35/1.2 Noctilux M. Turned out to
    be a fake post.
     
  15. I forgot to add... "But htat's just my opinion, I could be wrong".
    :)
     
  16. I have a case of 1camera-1lens problem, from my several older and
    newer lenses (12) all set propely on any of my four bodies, just my
    28/2.8 III and one of my two M4P just can´t lock, I can fit the lens
    on the body, it evens moves smoothly, but those can´t make click, no
    problem with the rest of my stuff. funy isn´t it
     
  17. Hey, nobody's being mean-spirited! Nobody ever said you shouldn't
    have some thick skin to participate here. If I offended in any
    way, I apologize. But I'm with Elliot.
    Something is way wrong here. Bryan says the 90 and the 135 fit, but
    the 35 and the 50 do not. What could possibly cause this scenario? I
    will be knocked off my feet to find out for sure that this is the
    case. The "50mm 2.0 ASPH" is strange, too. But it could be a simple
    error. What next, "The 50mm 2.0 ASPH fits just perfectly on my M8"?
     
  18. >The 50mm 2.0 ASPH fits just perfectly on my M8

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    It does on mine Tony ;O)
     
  19. My newly released 28mm Noctilux fits perfectly on my M3.5.
     
  20. Bryan, you can see, the problem you face is pretty unknown here. But
    there is nothing impossible in life ... Even you make small mistakes
    sometimes - just have a look at your 50 mm lens - although only a
    typing errror, maybe.

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    Somebody with more LEICA-experience should have a look at your gear.
    Perhaps your dealer knows what to do best. If it´s a problem of
    manufacture the LEICA service will solve the problem free of charge
    for you. If your lenses are s/h and perhaps have dropped down in the
    past (bent bajonnet i.e.) you/ you dealer will most likely have to
    pay for the repair.

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    Enjoy your new camera and do not be put off too much about the
    reaction here. Most people here just think, LEICA can´t be wrong.

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    Best regards
     
  21. Yes it is possible to have a lens not want to mount onto a body.
    My 35/1.4 Asph would not mount on my new M6TTL. I had to
    have the body adjusted under warranty.
     
  22. Bryan,
    If you just bought it, then take it back and insist that the dealer
    exchange it for another one.
    I have personally experienced the problem of Leica lenses
    which fit smoothly on one body are extemely tight on another.
     
  23. I do not remember which lens it was but on one of my M6 classics one
    of my lenses would not lock in the bayonet. After careful
    examination I determined that the lens was binding against the lens-
    lock-button-shroud (which is *plastic* BTW). The shroud is bevelled
    on an angle where it meets the body flange and this particular one
    was not angled steeply enough, and the one lens was slightly fatter
    than my others. A few quick strokes with a nail file and the plastic
    shroud was no longer offending, and the lens mounted fine.
     
  24. Have it on with the 35mm 2.0 asph as we speak. Never heard of a 50mm
    F2 - ASPH; is that a prototype? Scan please!!! Sure you not trying
    to pop an R lens into the 7?
     
  25. Strange lead, indeed.

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    Particularly because persons I wouldn't think that would over react
    now seem to get easily over excited. Is it a comsequence of "you know
    who's" annoying posts?

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    But anyhow: my very limited experience says that different lenses
    could fit differently on different bodies for any brand; even in my
    Leicas. Only that since all of my Leica things are old ('54, '57) and
    used, I wouldn't extrapolate starting from their behavior but neither
    would I think that Bryan's case is too strange or, at least, not
    impossible. It seems to be a case of too tight mechanical tolerances
    in brand new mechanical pieces; though unlikely not impossible
    I.M.H.O.

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    No doubt: the Leica dealer should know better, Bryan.

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    Best of luck !

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    -Iván
     
  26. I came across a 28/2.8 that would not fit on my R8 body but would
    fit any number of other R bodies. I took them down to Leica Milton
    Keynes and the lens would not fit any of their bodies either! After
    a week I received the two back, both the body and the lens had been
    fitted with with new mounts. Since then all lenses have fitted
    perfectly. And the 28 fits all other R bodies.
    Bob
     
  27. Im surprised at some of the responses to this post and by whom. It is
    perfectly concievable that the camera has a faulty mount. Tolerences
    vary as another thread above has proven. Quality control is always at
    its worst when a new model is released till all production bugs are
    ironed out. No one would have believed the poor electronics in early
    R8's but it happened. I think anyone who gets a bad Leica new out of
    the box has a right to question the quality control for the outlay of
    money on Leica products after all isnt that why we pay that little
    bit extra? Another thread by Charles has shown that different lenses
    have different mount tolerences, if the mount on the camera is at the
    opposite end of tolerences to the lenses that wont fit the error in
    the mount may concievable reveal itself with those lenses. Good news
    is new items have warranties, im sure it can be fixed, but as Bryan
    asked it would be good to know if anyone else has experienced the
    same problems as well informed members can be aware of the possibilty
    that such a problem exists. This post could be helpful to people on a
    possible bug of a new model, please treat it as such. Most likely it
    will be a one off slip up, lets be constructive and see if it is.
     
  28. "Quality control is always at its worst when a new model is released
    till all production bugs are ironed out."

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    Joel, think about what you are saying? Do you know how long the M
    bayonet mount (which is what we are talking about) has been around?
    The M3 was introduced in 1954. The mount which couples to six
    different focal lengths was introduced with the M4P in 1980. There
    is nothing whatever new about the bayonet mount in the M7. Do you
    think this is something Leica needs another year or two to iron
    out?
     

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