dr._karl_hoppe Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 My wife watches the TV series, "Pan Am,"--I don't --and said that in Sunday's episode, one of the stewardesses was given what looked like an M3 as a gift from a friend. Just curious if anyone out there saw it, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_dasousa Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 <p>M3 or M2, I could not tell in the quickness of the unexpected moment. I did see that the self timer was switched on, as the lever was parallel to the lenght of the body. Previous to gifting of the Leica, the woman was using some fixed lens rangefinder with a selenium metercell about the circumference of the lens. I hate to admit I notice such details instead only attending to the pretty girls!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey L.T. von Glück Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 <p>I noticed that self-timer lever too. The prop people on the set obviously didn't know too much about the workings of that camera. I think it was an M3 with a 50/2 'cron, but I only had a fleeting glimpse. (That fixed-lens RF may have been an Agfa. Have to catch the reruns.)</p> <p>Love the series though. It takes the place of <em>Madmen</em> for me until that show returns. They both perfectly capture the ethos of that era, the early 60s. (My wife loves ogling the women's fashion of those years. I like watching the women!)</p> Jeffrey L. T. von Gluck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_dasousa Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 <p>Yes but notice on Pan Am there is not everyone smoking, which is not accurate for the time. In the early 60s almost everyone smoked.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr._karl_hoppe Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 <p>That's very true about <em>Pan Am. Madmen</em> is more true to life with all the smoking going on, <em>and </em>drinking. I read where the actors use some sort of non-tobacco vegetable herb cigarettes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin_elliott Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 <p>"In the early 60s almost everyone smoked."<br> Yes.......but it wasn't tobacco!!!!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew bedo Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 <p>Smoking . . .yeah, and they could do it on the plane too! What a different world we live in now.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr._karl_hoppe Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 The nanny state gone wild on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 ...or perhaps, a kinder, more considerate world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr._karl_hoppe Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 <p>Not really. It is not the remit of the state to enforce a "kinder, more considerate world." That is the ambit of ordinary citizens acting in accord with civilised social convention. My father, who smoked variously cigars, pipes and cigarettes, would never have dreamed of lighting up in public without asking others if anyone objected. If anyone did, that was the end of it.</p> <p>I was born in 1938, so I have a very different perspective than the Baby Boomers, Generation X, the John Paul generation. We were drilled in manners, etiquette and deportment, something totally foreign to today's generation.</p> <p>Political correctness was unneeded because we were taught that it was simply impolite and boorish to make fun of, or call attention, or deride, some other person's appearance, race, beliefs, ethnic heritage, origins, disability, etc. We were taught never to use racial epithets because civilised people just don't do that. My parents would say to me and my siblings, "How would you like it if someone called you so and so?"</p> <p>Same thing with smoking. My father liked to light up a cigar after dinner with a drink at a restaurant. He would hold up the cigar and motion to the other tables, in effect, saying, "Is it OK?" If anyone scowled or shook their heads, fine, he put the cigar down.</p> <p>You don't need all this oppressive, suffocating PC nonsense if everyone would just be polite and practise good manners.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles_s. Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 <p>Knob rewind, lever rewind selector, self-timer so M3. It looked like 50/2 'cron by the scallops in the lens and size.<br> The other camera was more interesting. It appeared have a selenium cell around the fixed lens. There was black plastic ridge surrounding the viewfinder and frame iluminator widows. Couldn't tell if it had a rangefinder window. The name was on front in black within the black ridge. It struck me as being anachronistic. Interested to know what it is.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr._karl_hoppe Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Miles, <p>I started watching the series. We won't be seeing that M3 anymore. The KGB confiscated it, I believe, in last Sunday's episode. Have to watch the reruns to see what that fixed-lens RF was, maybe an Agfa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baisao Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 <p>"I did see that the self timer was switched on, as the lever was parallel to the lenght of the body."</p> <p>Some gift! Sounds like it was broken. :-(</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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