jack paradise Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Konica Minolta DiMAGE Scan Elite 5400 II http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_2547.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samir Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 "The Konica Minolta DiMAGE Scan Elite 5400 II not only offers 42.2 Megapixel resolution by adopting a high performance 5400 dpi 3-line color CCD" ... so it uses the same technology as in Nikon Coolscan. Curious to see how it will perform on b&w scanning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack paradise Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 Having owned the Nikon Coolscan V, I can say that this scanner is excellent with b&w negatives. I've made prints to 15"x22" from Ilford FP4+. But, as with all things, you learn to shoot and develop film for scanning. Overexposed and overdevelopped film makes for poor scanned images. Underexpose and underdevelop a bit will work best for scanning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack paradise Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 Sorry, last sentence should have read: use a lower iso speed and underdevelop. Scanners like lower contrast images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_brim Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 The next important question to be answered is this: how well does the new 5400 II perform with Kodachrome --- better, worse, or about the same as its predecessor? My Nikon Coolscan 5000 does very well with the latest E-6 and color negative films in the ISO 100 range, but my historical Kodachromes require a lot of tweaking and post-scanning cleanup work. If the new 5400 II performs as well or better with Kodachrome as does the previous model, then it is time to add a Minolta scanner to complement my Nikon. (And to complement my collection of 1960s Minolta SRT-101 cameras, too. Which are still my workhorse cameras.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
og Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 <i>"...a high performance 5400 dpi 3-line color CCD": so it uses the same technology as in Nikon Coolscan.</i><p> Where does this conclusion come from? Minolta Scanners use Cold cathode fluorescent lamp + 3 lines CCD (for Red, Green, Blue) whereas Nikon Scanners use Several Leds (Red, Green, Blue, IR) with one or more CCD lines depending on the model. There is absolutely no hint of any change from previous Minolta scanners on this topic.<p> The one thing I noticed <a href="http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/konica_minolta_dimage_scan_elite_5400_ii_film_scanner/">here</a>, though, is the absence of "Grain Dissolver" in the text... Strange.<p> Olivier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_bellamy Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 "25 seconds per frame" - is that on full resolution ? Are they telling us the full story ? If it is correct then I will kick myself as I only just bought Mk.1 ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_franco Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I check here: http://konicaminolta.com/products/consumer/digital_camera/dimage/dimagescan-elite5400-2/specifications.html New white led light source and no mention of grain dissolver. Would still be better for b&w? Need to wait for the first test. Rafael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_zugic Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Looks good, but it appears that they have dropped IEEE 1394 connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandru_petrescu Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 <em>"25 seconds per frame" - is that on full resolution ?</em> <p> I suppose 25seconds/frame should be compared with the 5400 I's 60 seconds/frame (16bit no ICE 117Mb) - i.e. the II is supposedly about two times faster and with a bit higher resolution. <p> The hardware data seems to be the same between the two devices, except maybe "white led" vs. "fluorescent lamp" and 40 more pixels per line giving 5328x7920 vs. 5232x7800. <p> The computed dynamic range seems to be the same 4.8, so I'm interested to find out about the actual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jos_roost Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Concerning the grain dissolver:<br> The 'old' 5400 has Digital ICE (NOT ICE3) and it has the mechanical grain dissolver to 'dissolve' the film grain.<br> The 5400-II, however, has ICE<b>4</b> which includes GEM to handle film grain.<br> So the grain dissolver is probably gone: partly because of this, the scan times are faster.<br> <br> And as for dynamic range 4.8: that doesn't mean anything because this '4.8' is a theoretical value, directly related to the 16 bits of the AD converter.<br> What is important is the 'measured' or 'tested' dynamic range, which for the 'old' 5400 was specified by Minolta to be 3.8 - see this comparison table <a href="http://www.minoltaeurope.com/pe/digital/comparison/v_scan_e.htm">http://www.minoltaeurope.com/pe/digital/comparison/v_scan_e.htm</a><br>We have to wait and see which 'measured' value turns up for the 5400-II.<br> <br> So, as for the major differences between the 5400 and the 5400-II (just from reading the specs):<br> - ICE plus GrainDissolver has been replaced by ICE4<br> - Light source: "Cold cathode fluorescent" has been replaced by "White LED"<br> - IEEE1394 / Firewire appears to be gone<br> - the 5400-II has much faster and combined Index-plus-Preview-scan<br> - the 5400-II has approx. 2x faster final scan<br> (see <a href="http://konicaminolta.com/products/consumer/digital_camera/dimage/dimagescan-elite5400-2/02.html">http://konicaminolta.com/products/consumer/digital_camera/dimage/dimagescan-elite5400-2/02.html</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff.... Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 There was mention at the Europe site that you can use custom ICC profiles, which will make it very attractive for Velvia users... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_hartnett Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 "....So, as for the major differences between the 5400 and the 5400-II (just from reading the specs): - Light source: "Cold cathode fluorescent" has been replaced by "White LED"...." Look at this thread for info regarding light source affecting b & w scanning http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00AKZC The "old" Minolta scanner is supposed to be the best choice for B & W film scanning due to Minolta's fluorescent light source! I hope the new scanner performs well with B & W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean_f Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 When we are supposed to read the first full reviews ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Also the algorithms for scanning are supposed to be on par with what is used in color mini-lab type of gear for better colors reproduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip l. Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Forgot to mention that 100% negative frame scanning is supposed to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_ades1 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Does anyone have a clue how the image quality on B&W films will compare with the older Canon FS4000US? Speed issues and specifications aside, is the Minolta unit capable of superior results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugebob Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I found a place that sells them. Granted, I've never done business with this site and not sure where they are. I'm waiting for full reviews. http://www.costcentral.com/proddetail/Minolta_DIMAGE_SCAN_ELITE_5400_II_35MM_HIGH_RES_FILM_SCANNER_W_ICE_4/2892301/F63143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_naveen Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 The minolta scan elite 5400 II is also available at adorama http://www.adorama.com/IMNDSE54002.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_zukowski Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I bought the 5400 II for $620 tonight. I went to a camera show in quincy, MA brought together by a campany called Camera company. Ck out there site "Cameraco.com". It was a show where they brought all there venders together. I think they gave me this price since I bought a 35mm 1.4g lens and the 5600d flash. Once I get it up and running I will let you know. I don't have anything to campare it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disavora Posted March 15, 2005 Share Posted March 15, 2005 So how is it? Did you try any b&w negatives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jos_roost Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Just for information, and as follow-up to my previous message:<br> Minolta now also has a comparison of Elite 5400 II, Elite 5400 and Dual IV at the following link: <a href="http://www.minoltaeurope.com/pe/digital/comparison/comparison_5400II_en.html">http://www.minoltaeurope.com/pe/digital/comparison/comparison_5400II_en.html</a><br> They quote for the new 5400-II the same MEASURED Dynamic Range as for the original 5400, i.e. 3.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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