andyfalsetta Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 The Kodak product literature specifically states the above developer is not for use with sheet film. Does anyone know what the downside is? I checked the archives for any information on this and came up with no hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyfalsetta Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 PS: I have developed 16 sheets using it and haven't seen a problem, so maybe I am missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Developer is developer. If you're getting a good image that prints or scans well, then I can't see any reason not to keep using it. Maybe Kodak's reason is one of economy, or aerial oxidation in a deep tank? But in a rotary tank or any other one-shot, small scale method that really doesn't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I don't know what the specific issue is, but I too have successfully used it for sheet films. I generally use the SP455 tank and agitate my sheet film just like I would roll film. Like Joe, I agree that if you're getting an image there's no reason to not. With that said, I seem to have it in the back of my head that Kodak green lights TMAX-RS for sheet film but not regular TMAX. I haven't looked at it further since I prefer D76 for conventional film, and don't use a lot of tabular grain films anyway. What I have in 4x5 is expired stuff I bought cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Ben is right according to the Kodak Darkroom Dataguide 1996 RS specified for sheet film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 The only reason I can think of is the old-fashioned idea that larger formats need a higher Dmax. Certainly T-max 100 in D-76 tops out and has a lowish Dmax, even with extended development. I thought T-max developer was supposed to overcome this though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Back when our family had a camera shop my dad contacted a Kodak representative about the TMAX developer vs. TMAX RS for sheet film. The rep said that the TMAX (we had some TMX in 4x5 to process) said it would be underdeveloped if done in regular TMAX developer. Ended up using D-76 instead. Back many years before we had TMAX film we usually kept DK-50 mixed for our sheet film (usually Plus-X). However, Kodak no longer makes DK-50 and I know of no recommended times for TMAX films. D-76, though, has plenty of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Back when our family had a camera shop my dad contacted a Kodak representative about the TMAX developer vs. TMAX RS for sheet film. The rep said that the TMAX (we had some TMX in 4x5 to process) said it would be underdeveloped if done in regular T MAX developer. and the Pro photographer that worked at the local camera store where I traded said (according to Kodak) T Max was a Kodak trade name, the T Max developer had no relation to T Max films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilmarco Imaging Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I use D-76 1+2 with TMX (100) in 4x5 and enjoy the results. http://www.wilmarcoimaging.com/img/s1/v21/p2412427012-4.jpg 1 Wilmarco Imaging Wilmarco Imaging, on Flickr wilmarcoimaging on Instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 and the Pro photographer that worked at the local camera store where I traded said (according to Kodak) T Max was a Kodak trade name, the T Max developer had no relation to T Max films. http://www.digitaltruth.com/products/kodak_tech/j86_TMax-Devs.pdf You can use T-MAX Developer to process roll sizes of KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX Films and most other black-and-white continuous-tone films. Do not use this developer to process sheet film. You can use T-MAX RS Developer and Replenisher to process all roll and sheet sizes of KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX Films, as well as most other black-and-white continuous-tone films. While the data sheet does make it clear that it can be used as a general purpose continuous tone developer, they do repeatedly refer to its use with TMAX films. Also, the TMAX film datasheet doesn't say anything specifically about using TMAX developer aside from the fact that it's the first developer listed in every chart in the sheet. It seems to me as though the name is not a co-incidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The T in TMAX refers to Kodak's T-grain film emulsion technology. Nobody had heard of Tmax in any way, shape or form until the "new" films came out. First generation Tmax film had a quite peculiar exposure-density curve when developed in existing developers, D-76 especially, and Tmax developer was, err, developed to give a "straighter" curve and higher Dmax. I believe the film emulsion was later tweaked to be more compatible with conventional/legacy developers. In my experience the average company rep, when put on the spot, will make up the first BS that comes to mind. And state it with utter conviction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirteenthumbs Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Putting a developer at the top of a list is Marketing. I never took anything that store told me for fact except the total of the transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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