stacy_egan Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Getting my 20D a month ago has spurred me to read photography books and web sites to improve my photographic knowledge, and I was only then made aware of the color possible with velvia film. Is it possible with the 20D? Does one do this by setting the color saturation parameter to 2 or even 3? By setting ISO to 100 and long exposure times? Or is shooting raw recommended (I currently shoot JPEG because I haven't read up how to shoot and process raw yet) and post-processing the color saturation with Photoshop? Thanks for your time, Stacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfl Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 There are various ways to achieve Velvia like saturation with the 20d. You could up the saturation parameter if you are shooting jpeg. If you are shooting RAW you have much more control over the saturation, but you have an additional step added to your workflow. Additionally, I have a couple of photoshop actions which are specifically designed to achieve velvia color. They sometimes work great, and other times work ok. The nice thing about RAW though is you can have the saturation if you want it or not have it if you don't (portraits, for instance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilomal Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Check out www.fredmiranda.com. He has several photoshop actions for sale (including velvia) at a reasonable price. I can vouch for the B&W action, I'm very pleased with the results. I will be getting the velvia action next. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilomal Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Check out www.fredmiranda.com. He has several photoshop actions for sale (including velvia) at a reasonable price. I can vouch for the B&W action, I'm very pleased with the results. I will be getting the velvia action next. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micheleberti Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Straight from camera u can push color saturation but it is not the same. Otherwise u could check out <a href="http://www.fredmiranda.com">this</a>, go to the software section of the site and pick Velviavision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bashir_lunat Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 Stacy......Look for Photoshop plug in called VelviaVision,once installed it should be under File>Automate..and not under normal filters manu. Try this link for samples>>>> http://www.fredmiranda.com/shopping/vv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgarity Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 You can get a velvia like look using the channel mixer in Photoshop. Simply set the red channel to red 120%, green -10%, blue -10% the blue channel to red -10%, green +120%, blue -10% the blue channel to red -10%, green -10%, blue +120% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant g Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 I assume you mean: the GREEN channel to red -10%, green +120%, blue -10% Never thought of doing that. Thanks for that suggestion, I'll have to try that when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacy_egan Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 Thank you so much for the answers so far! In looking at the VelviaVision plugin I see that it is not compatible with Photoshop Elements (which is all I have). I assume the RGB-channel adjustments are within the realm of Elements; I'm anxious to see how that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry_minsky1 Posted March 30, 2005 Share Posted March 30, 2005 http://www.photocleaner.com/ This utility costs almost nothing, and if you set the saturation up all the way, you get something which looks quite good. It doesn't seem to clip like Photoshop would do if you just crank up the saturation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_galstad Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 You can boost the saturation to match the saturation of Velvia or even beyond it. However, the ''Velvia look'' is not only about the saturation. That film render hues in a very different way than digital sensors does, and boosting the saturation and eventually add warmth -- that's how the ''Velvia plungins'' work - does not help here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_galstad Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 xcuse my E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgarity Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Grant You caught me out. That was a typo on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_dunn2 Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 <cite>I assume the RGB-channel adjustments are within the realm of Elements</cite> <p>Nope; sorry. Elements lacks the channel mixer.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacy_egan Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 Yes, I discovered last evening that Elements does not have a channel mixer adjustment layer. But there *may* be a work-around. I'm looking at Richard Lynch's Web site www.hiddenelements.com in which he has a book+CD which claims to provide procedures to getting near-Photoshop capability with Elements. Also is http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html which provides a free download of curves and other effects to go with Elements. I have not tried it; I haven't done enough research into "digital darkroom" techniques enough to know what "curves" are yet:) Again, thank you so much for your responses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl chandler Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 This is what I found by reading Magic Lantern Guide: Canon EOS 20D by Rob Sheppard. He sugests for the Velvia look: Parameters Set 1 = Contrast 2Points, Sharpness 1Point, Saturation 2Points. If you dont like it, just experiment with the individual settings. It's digital what have you got to loose :~} . Good luck Carl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian riches Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 I've just tried the plugins for elements hat are on <a href="http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html">http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/photoshop-elements-curves.html</a>, and they work just fine - even in my Elements v.2. The settings for "Digital Velvia" listed earlier certainly make for a punchier image. It may be a bit too strong, sometimes, but can be easily backed off as it is in a separate layer. Example below, hopefully. The original was a jpeg froma 10D, with Sharpness +2, Contrast 0 and Saturation +1 (my normal default jpeg shooting parameters).<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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