barry_passaris Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Hi all, I'm not sure if I'm posting this one in the right forum. I love photographing flowers (mainly close ups and less so macros) and I am just querying whether there is a commercial market for such shots. Anyone shooting this type of photography who could advise on what type of clientele would be interested in this. I thought one option would be to print relatively large (up to approx. 23x33 inches) to attract a more corporate client base of limited edition prints, rather than selling smaller prints to the 'man on the street'. I'm assuming stock photography does not pay at all these days. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_earussi1 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I tried the same thing myself and found only a limited market for it, though I did not try the corporate market. Landscapes are the best seller followed by animals, with flowers a distant third. But maybe your area is different from mine (I live in Oregon). Steven Terrell has made a success of it to some extent by doing the 'water droplet acting as a magnifying lens on leaves' thing, so you might give it a shot. You can see his work at: http://www.yoshidasfineartgallery.com/index/artists/7/14/. And you're right, stock does not pay much, if anything, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 I've seen a couple of people successfully selling notecards with their flower shots. (Neither quit their day job however.) As with most photography, I honestly think marketing/sales ability is more important than photo ability. Kent in SD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinblack Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 There is a relatively large market for flower photography. The problem (as is the case in many sectors of the photo market) is that it is saturated with a great deal of high quality work, with too many people pursuing the same limited amount of dollars. Also, in most of the market, there is little value in having a catalog of every little known wildflower unless you can identify the potential market for your work and inform niche buyers. Marketing is the big trick, once you have created a critical mass of excellent quality images. When shooting flowers, you are better off identifying the potential use and targeting your shooting for that, whether it is the cover of a specific magazine, a type of corporate client that often uses floral imagery, or the fine print market. Do your own research to determine who might be interested in the kinds of images you are making. Marketability is the key. Otherwise, you might be pursuing a very emotionally fulfilling hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photomark Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 In the last few years both Howard Schatz and Joyce Tennyson have published big coffee table books of their flower shots. This fact suggests that not only is there a market for flower photographs, there is a huge market. But this fact doesn't really help you, because the question, 'is there a market for x' is to vague to be useful; there is a market for almost anything. The more important question is: are your flower photographs profitably marketable considering the market and competition? Almost anybody--art buyers, book publishers, card companies, advertising agencies, etc--would be interested in <i>the right</i> flower photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Regardless of the market, flowers are one of the more popular photo subjects, so you'd need to really stand out in the crowd, and that would be hard to do. If you're going places other people don't, or shooting things other people don't, you have that much less competition. But making a living by taking flower or cute baby pictures has got to be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_passaris Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 I wasn't planning to use flower shots as my sole income but I'm just thinking about what type of photography sells compared to my photographic interests. I appreciate all your comments. You have given me food for thought. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_proud Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 All, After being in the photo business for 20 years, some names become recognizable. One of those names is Justin Black. He has been, and I'm assuming still is, Manager of Mountain Light Photography out of Bishop, Ca., Galen Rowell's gallery and an excellent shooter in his own right. With no offense to anyone else, his advice should have some very credible weight that comes with it. cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueviews Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Go get a copy of 100 flowers by Harold Feinstein or Adam Kulfeld's excellent portraits of flowers books or Barbara Bordnick's stuff. Better yet look at some of Mapplethorpe's stuff. If your stuff is that good then it will sell. As everyone else has said, the world is full of excellent flower photographers. It is a very crowded space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry_passaris Posted January 7, 2007 Author Share Posted January 7, 2007 Thanks to everyone for your realistic (though not discouraging) comments. Very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_potts1 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 If you like flowers, maybe you should think "gardening" instead. There are millions of gardeners and many gardening magazines that consume a vast quantity of images. Stock is nuts these days, but magazine rates generally aren't too bad. You will have to cultivate relationships and carve a niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinblack Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 To second the last response, you are far better off direct marketing your images to clients who you have identified as potential users of your work, rather than simply placing flower photographs with stock websites and waiting for paltry checks to come in few and far between. Also, I can't emphasize strongly enough that you must be ready to really push the standards of quality in your work. The oversupply of images in the market means that your work will really have to stand out in terms of design, lighting, etc., etc., to gain any kind of competitive edge. This is particularly true with images of easily accessible and "cooperative" subjects like flowers. It isn't enough to make flower photos that are "as good" as the shots you've seen in popular photo how-to books, or the standard photo magazines. To maximize the marketability of your work you should be setting your standards higher by looking at flower photography that is selected for use in media that exemplify excellent art direction (that could mean magazines, advertising, commercial websites, etc.). If you can make images that meet that high standard, research the market, identify, reach out to, and build relationships with clients, learn to negotiate licensing fees and terms to your advantage, and present yourself and your work in a professional manner, then you should do quite well. Otherwise, you probably won't even come close to covering your expenses trying to reach the commercial market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_senesac Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 I'm guessing printing flowers large is really not going to connect to some untapped market. I recall one wealthy photographer who printed and exhibitted a number of large prints of colorful flowers. At least comments I heard were not too positive. Who wants to see inch wide petals blown up 10x? Fascinating yes at first but I'd speculate ordinary people better relate to flowers at their normal sizes in terms of what they might consider for a place on their walls versus some large framed magnified picture of a single poppy. One reason I shoot individual wildflowers with a smaller format and for closeups only point my view camera at masses of dense flowers. Wide landscapes of wildflower fields does work large of course. The market for flower images is so saturated commercial clients easily are satisfied by well oiled stock, well known photographers, and image corps so they have little need to look at the myriad other sources screaming look at me me me. At the low end, ordinary folk, especially women love flowers. And they don't connect to those commercial sources so those selling locally in galleries and art fairs will always receive some business. ...David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_cray Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 <p>Flowers are one of the more popular photo subjects, which means you need to capture amazing images to really stand out in the crowd. To accomplish this, it's important to cultivate a photographic eye.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildflower art Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 <p>Hello. <br> I would like to thank you for your post. I have been honing my photography skill for more than 10 years, and some of my best stuff is still coming.<br> I did see the photographers sites you mention. There work is beautiful and technically precise, but I feel it lacks a certain passion that available light photography of in situ wildflower photography provides. <br> I have been thinking long and hard about buying John Shaw's The Business of Nature Photography. But I'm not sure I'm ready to go that route. I know the bloom time of every wildflower in my area, and now where to find fields of them, and not just isolate one blossom.<br> I sometimes do wonder what's the point of having 40,000 slides and thousands of dollars in equipment if I can't share my vision. I'm not asking how to profit from it, I just want to share. <br> I have contributed to books, online databases, and even got a picture published. But I haven't made a sale. And really wish I had the time to scan and publize my best work. I don't really have the web skills and time to make my website into an art house. <br> I just wanted to say thank you, because I agree that the part of my photography that's missing is business savy, and that's probably a bigger part than precision, but not, I dare say, vision.<br> I also wanted to say how rewarding I find photography. Every year I can find the same flowers, or even the same plant, and try to get the picture right. I just wish I wasn't so lazy that sometimes I say, well, I'll get that plant next year.<br> Thank you.<br> Matthew</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now