Discussion in 'Olympus' started by BeBu Lamar, Jul 5, 2021.
I don't see any of the Pen models listed on Olympus website. Are they all discontinued?
A new Pen model has been announced recently, but apparently not (at least initially) for the US market:
Here's the Olympus PEN E-P7 and here's what it means...
OLYMPUS PEN E-P7 | PEN | Olympus: cameras, audio and binoculars
I like the Pen F and was hoping they drop the new price but they simply discontinued it. I am not interested in a used one.
That was how I felt about the Olympus E-620 10 years ago - waiting, hoping for the price to drop only to find out that the whole FourThirds system was discontinued, replaced by Micro4/3.
History repeating itself?
The Pen E-PL10 is apparently on sale in the US. The E-P7 is not yet being sold in the US at this time.
E-PL10 Stylish Digital Camera | Olympus Cameras, Audio & Binoculars
The Pen-F was discontinued early 2019, so there really is not any thing new about it's fate. I suppose they could repackage the EM-5 III's components into a rangefinder styled Pen-F II (heavier / cost more / same performance as EM-5 III), but IMHO, what Olympus really needs is an updated BSI sensor with a denser PDAF array to promote better subject tracking, and an updated / user friendly menu system.
The E-P7 is an attractive small camera for those in the MFT world who want a very portable version that will use all MFT lenses. I, too, suspect it will become available in the US in due course. As to "what Olympus should do". Well in a way those requests could be made of many cameras today. The PDAF array in the current 20 MP sensor is not an AF slouch in either the EM1X of EMI mk III (or mkII for that matter). I shoot basketball with it on occasion and it works pretty well. Of course, it could be better (everything can be better). As to the menus, they are no worse than Sony. It's just a matter of getting used to them. I suspect what mFT really need (or rather they don't, but it is what people think they need) is at least a 30MP sensor.
I have successfully used continuous focusing on my EM-5 III for zoo subjects and had a large percentage of in focus keepers. Less successful using focus tracking since it does not hold focus well on the subject's head and tends to lose tracking towards the edge of the frame. Face/eye detection mode (with people) does work, but not consistently enough for me to rely on it (far less sure footed than face detection of my Iphone 12). Canon & Sony seems to have the best AF tracking, where it is described by reviewers (like DP Review) that the system simply "works" for almost all subjects without a whole lot of user tinkering of settings. The menu of my EM-5 III is essentially unchanged from the menu of the EM-5 I introduced in almost 10 years ago. I don't need 30mp, but the 21mp BSI, stacked M43 sensor in the Sony product listing seems like a possibility in the next OMD camera.
I never use focus tracking as I never think it works, and for what I shoot that needs speed it would be hopeless (basketball). Eye detect I don't use because I have never felt I needed it. I think most of the AF tracking available works OK with single objects in a fairly empty field, cars, bikes, birds in flight etc. Reading many of the reviews of the E1MX and Em1 mkIII it also works, but there is a question of degree. 85% vs 95% for Canon/Sony etc or something like that. For birders this difference is said to be "vital" and "significant". But I wonder. I think we also need a sense of proportion of these things. The latest thing is always praised to the skies, after a few years the views change to it being "outclassed", "no good", "x is night and day difference" and so on, so what people say today is often buyer satisfaction (as an opposite to buyer remorse), which often does not last all that long. I have no real need of a 21 MP BSI or a 30 MP sensor really, but I think that more people are impressed by "high resolution" than number of fps and face-detection AF speed, but this is maybe my prejudice.
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