from earthy Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Is it really safe to use rechargeable batteries particularly on canon 420EX and ELan7E I heard some photographers here in my place dont use rechargebale batteries they only use Energizer Alkaline batteries. If it safe what kind of rechargeable batteries shud i get ? can you suggest that will not harm my equipments Nimh? Nicad? etc. Thanks! Happy Shooting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patty_mac Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 They'll work & not damage your equipment - however the performance is likely to be poor compared to comparable alkaline and lithium batteries. Nimh and especially the older Nicad rechargeable technologies start off fine but decline rapidly - not giving the same level of power over the charge of the battery and fade fast. Alkaline and lithium batteries provide the same consistent amount of power just until they die-out - and they last much longer as well. The newer lithium-ion rechargebles offer much better performance than the older Nimh or NiCad batteries. Of course the differences in performance depend on the demands of the application. Test a set of each out under similar conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maureen_m Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 The BP-300 instructions say not to use AA lithium batteries in the battery pack, as they can damage the camera (this does not apply to using lithium 123 batteries in the body itself - that would be fine).<p><a href="http://eosdoc.com/manuals.asp?q=FR6">Click here for some more info on lithium batteries in the BP-300.</a><p>Since I was never sure about which lithium AA batteries were okay to use, and which ones were dangerous, I stuck with NiMH rechargeables.<p>I used NiMH rechargeables in both an Elan 7 and a 420EX and never had a complaint about them. For me, they seemed to last forever between charging, but I'll admit that when they die, they die FAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimstrutz Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 My experience is, rechargable NiMH AA batteries work great in a flash. They will recycle your flash in just a little over half the time alkaline batteries take. The alkalines start out fairly good (but not as fast as the NiMHs), but very quickly decline to being very slow. They keep woring for a long time, but take forever to recycle the flash after about 50 shots. The NiMH batteries start out very fast (3 second recycles at full power with a 420EX), decline slightly after a few pops (4 seconds) and hold that until they die (about 200 pops later). Two sets of NiMHs get me through a whole wedding with power to spare in a 550EX. They do loose a lot of power (self discharge) if you just have them sitting around for a few weeks though. That's the one area the alkalines are better at. BTW, high power NIMHs (1800 mAhr or higher) don's recycle the flash any faster than lower powered ones, but they sure last a lot longer. NiCads are similar to NiMHs, but typically have a lower mAhr rating and don't last as long. Lithium (non-rechargable type) last 2-3 times longer than alkalines, recycle the flash faster than alkalines but slower than NiMHs, hold their speed well, don't self dicharge, but cost a fortune in the long run. If you only use your flash occasionally, the lithiums are better because they are always ready. Otherwise, get NiMHs for flash. For powering a camera body, this might be different, since it is not a high drain use. Alkalines typically do a lot better in those conditions. NiMH's should still work well, but you would probably have to recharge them even if you did not use your camera for a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_goldman Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 NiMH rechargeable batteries DO NOT suffer degraded performance as they are used. The discharge curve for NiMH batteries is flatter than NiCds, Lithium AAs, and alkalines, and that's why they are ideal in electronic flash units. They also are less susceptible to the memory effect of NiCd batteries. The only negative aspect of them is that they self-discharge more rapidly than NiCds. Newest NiMH rechargeable batteries are now available in capacities of 2,000 mah and greater. However, they do need a charger specifically designed to charge them safely and effectively. As for your camera, If you have the battery pack, I would stick to alkaline AAs; (or lithium AAs only if Canon says it is OK, since they have a very high initial voltage which can damage electronics if the proper regulating circuit is not built into the camera or battery pack to handle it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_goldman Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 If you're interested in purchasing NiMH batteries and charger(s), try Thomas Distributing on the web. They feature Maha batteries and chargers, which are highly rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanson Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Earth Man...I hope you are enjoying your new camera. I also shoot with a 7e, 420, 28-135IS. I use high capacity NiMH batteries in all my cameras and flashes...no problem. I use Lithiums in my 420 <i>ONLY</i> never in my T90's or my elans.<p>If you're interested in learning about batteries go here;<P>http://tinyurl.com/s85v<p>or here<p>http://tinyurl.com/s85z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobyalan.com Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 I found that when I used rechargeable batteries that my sperm count was very low and my photos would only print in sepia tone. When I switched to Energizer Alkaline, I was immediately able to impregnate women and my photos were again in full color. Another stupid question "From Earth". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron c sunshine coast,qld,a Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 Ummm,patrick seems to be saying the opposite to everything i've studdied about batteries.... <br>The Nimh or Nicd will be especially great in a very high power use device like a flash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_lin Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 you could always use Nimh and carry around a couple of alkalines as spares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark cohran Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I use NiMH batteries in my 550EX and 540EZ flashes all the time. I use 1600mh cells and they work great. They have more than paid for themselves and they have no "memory" problems as NiCads do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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