michael_tellings Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 Hi, I'm a beginner who has just bought a CanonFS40000 scanner. I'm using it with Vuescan software. It is not clear to me weather I should do the image manipulation(contrast, color correction)in Vuescan or in the Photoshop programme which I use as viewer. Does it make any difference ? Thanks in advance for your views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 If you manipulate the data file (the image ) in the scanner software you never have a "clean" orginal to go back to. Having an unmanipulated image stored somewhere (hard drive or CD-R) is just a very good idea for many reasons, especially if you are not working with a monitor you know to be accurate in the first case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannet___ Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 I agree with Ellis, but that's not to say that you should just punch the button in VueScan and take whatever comes out. You want a "neutral" scan, and that will virtually always mean you will be manipulating VueScan to set white and black points, and correct color casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl smith Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 While what Ellis says is generally easier, it isn't a good idea. If you leave your manipulation to post scan, you will usually end upwith a lower quality image. Adjusting white and black points, and making use of the "Lock Exposure" feature will allow you to obtain much better scans with a full histogram. If you choose to adjust these thing later in Photoshop, you'll see that your histogram becomes considerably stretched, indicated by the "spikes." This also brings in why you might want to scan at 16 bit color (per channel). You have more information to work with and it'll result in a smoother image and you'll have a smaller chance of stretching your histograms too far. Color correction is fairly easy to do in vuescan as well, and I suggest taking that route. Also check out the preset color adjustments he has, and try the film profiles (Kodak mainly). Some are more useful than others it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendel_leisk Posted October 13, 2002 Share Posted October 13, 2002 When I do the initial, physical scan in Vuescan, I only save the raw file. I do no cropping (use maximum setting). Subsequently, I "Scan from Disk" using the raw files, cropping and doing adjustments as follows. In the case of color slide I do all my adjustments in Vuescan (except rotation), with b/w negs. I innvert, clip and convert to grey scale (and rotate as necessary) in photoshop. If any of the results are not satisfactory, either exposure wrong or mis-cropped, I can rescan from disk. I don't have to put slide/neg. back in carrier. Check out the use of "=", as opposed to "+" to append output file name, in Vuescan. With "=", the file name will match the frame number, as opposed to being the next available number. When scanning from disk, be sure to set Device|Scan Mode to your scanner, not transparency. In the case of color slides, I do my entire correction in Vuescan. With black and white I do some post scan adjustments in photoshop. I've been scanning with the following settings: ++++ Color slides (Fuji provia 100): Device Tab: Media type: Slide Film Bits per pixel: 48 RGB Color Tab: Slide Vendor: kodak ektachrome Color balance: neutral * Black point (%): 0.02 White point (%): 0.02 Brightness: 1 Slide Curve: log dark All Spaces: sRGB * I find a very few images need "white balance" setting, IF there's an obvious and distracting color cast. However, white balance can take "honest" warmth and vibrancy out of images. I always try neutral first and usually stay with that. ++++ Black and white (mostly tri-x): Device Tab: Media type: Image Bits per pixel: 48 RGB Color Tab: Color balance: Neutral Black point (%): 0 White point (%): 0 Image Curve: log dark Brightness: 1 All Spaces: sRGB black and white negs. post-scan adjustments in photoshop: Invert (scanning as "image" is giving me reversed tone image) Clip per channel 0.1% bright and dark Convert to grey scale ++++ With both color slide and b/w negs in photoshop: Convert to 8 bit per channel AFTER completion of all touch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethan hansen Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Michael, The only reason to do heavy editing in the scanner software is if you have a scanner that scans in high bit mode (>8 bits/channel), but only produces 8-bit files. In this situation, performing adjustments prior to downsampling to 8-bits retains more image information. Your FS4000 provides 14-bit files, so this is not an issue. As Ellis mentions, having the unadulterated scan is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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