how much for m4-p today?

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by frank granovski, Jul 31, 2005.

  1. How much should a new-like working M4-P sell for in the USA? (The "P"
    standing for professional.) Would it be more expensive with the
    original box? Is the black one cheaper or more expensive? It seems
    that no one sells the good stuff unless they're from Tim-buk-tu or
    they post for the very first time under a funny name then flee (hoping
    for a one way deal). Has anyone been taken here and too ashamed to
    tell? Thought so. <img src="">
  2. The tribe captured three foreigners and offered them two choices: death or mumba. The first two captives thought how bad could this mumba stuff be, and chose mumba. They were sodomized and beaten and tortured and crawled back in agony. The chief then came up to the third captive and said "death or mumba! You choose." Having heard his comrades ear piercing shrieks and screams, he chose death. The chief then said: "OK, we give you death. But first a little mumba".
  3. how much for a M(umba)4-P(hrank)?
  4. awahlster

    awahlster Moderator

    Three mountain men were captured alive after a long and fierce battle by a band of Blackfoot Indians bent on a little revenge for the mountain men trapping beaver on their land.

    Because the Mountain Men had fought so bravely and cost the Indians many brave warriors. And were clearly great warriors in their own right. The old Chief decided to let them chose their way of death. Then their skins would be made into a great war canoe as a way of honoring such great warriors.


    He stepped up to the first mountain man and asked him how he wanted to die.

    The mountain man said "Live by the sword die by the sword" and with that the great chief had a brave run him through with a captured sword. Killing him instantly.

    He stepped up to the second mountain man and asked him how he wanted to die.

    The mountain man thought for a moment and said "Live by the rifle die by the rifle" and with that the great chief had a brave shoot him through the heart. Killing him instantly.

    He then stepped up to the last mountain man and asked him how he wanted to die. Well, having watched his friends die the mountain man thought for a long time. And finally:

    The mountain man said "Live to eat die by eating" and with that the great chief looked at him stunned not knowing what to think. He certinly didn't have time to watch this mountain man eat himself to death. So he asked what does this mean?

    The mountain man said give me a fork and I'll show you! The Chief handed the Mountain Man a fork and with that the Mountain Man started stabbing himself all over screaming "YOU AIN'T MAKIN NO DAMN CANOE OUT OF ME"

    Sometimes, I think Frank is trying to make a canoe out of all of us!
  5. I always thought it was death by mumba/snoo snoo/etc.
  6. <P>Billy's homework assignment is to think of a true story with a moral so he goes home and thinks about it all night and finally has one. The following day, Suzy raises her hand and says, "My dad owns a farm and every Sunday we load the chicken eggs on the truck and drive into town to sell them at the market. Well, one Sunday we hit a big bump and all the eggs flew out of the basket and onto the road."<P>

    The teacher asks for the moral to the story. Suzy replies, "Don't put all your eggs in one basket."<P>

    Next is Lucy. "Well, my dad owns a farm, too, and every weekend we take the chicken eggs and put them in the incubator. Last weekend only 8 of the 12 eggs hatched. The moral is, don't count your chicks before they are hatched.''<P>

    Billy is last to speak. He says, ''My uncle Ted fought in the Vietnam War. His plane was shot down over enemy territory. He jumped out before it crashed, with only a parachute, a bottle of bourbon, a machine gun, and a machete. As he floated down he drank the bottle of bourbon. Unfortunately, he landed right in the middle of 100 North Vietnamese soldiers. He shot 70 with his machine gun, but ran out of bullets so he pulled out his machete and killed 20 more. The blade broke on his machete, so he killed the last 10 with his bare hands.''<P>

    The teacher looks in shock at Billy and asks if there is possibly any moral to his story.<P>

    Billy replies, "Don't fu*k with Uncle Ted when he's been drinking.''
  7. Leica M4-P Body Made in Canada in 1983 (70th anniversary special) including original box and warranty cards cost me $795.00 CDN plus I had to throw in a Nikon N55 with 28-80 AF Nikkor Lens. The person traded the leica in this weekend since his eyes were not what the were in 1983 and he wanted the autofocus. He further put a Summilux 35 1.4 into the pot. He dropped off the camera on Saturday and I get to keep it fully once my cheque clears on Tuesday (Civic Holiday here this weekend. Frank. I would a trade for a M4-P is a better deal than forking out hard cash. I understand you live in British Columbia and here must be a lot of older users who would be happy to cash out their Leicas for a Nikon or Canon product. I plan to further swamp my 70-300 Nikkor G for a 90mm Elmarit. Think outside of the traditional box and that Leica may be yours. Good Luck Frank.
  8. It could be either

    a m4-p [professional]


    a m4-p (pristine) it possible to buy a shutterbug magazine in Canada?
  9. Grank, if you have to ask you how much it costs can't afford it.

    Franovski, if you can afford it you'll break it and you can't afford that.

    Just go on taking snapshots with your Yashica and be happy.
  10. But do Germans have the word pristine? I guess they do. What's wrong with Canada these days? Is it really cheaper for Die Leitz Familie to build 'em in Portugal? What about Hong Kong where my Electro GSN was assembled? It would be cheaper, yes?
  11. That seems like you got very lucky, Joseph.
  12. Frank, I think they're secretly making Leicas in South Africa and just telling people that they're assembled in Portugal. The 99 Cent store has been selling South African Close-Up tooth paste. On the other hand the folding umbrellas are made in China. It's hard to tell, Frank. I'll let you know if I see any M mount lenses there.
  13. This has been a most interesting thread! Let's hear some more stories, guys! :)
  14. Sherry Krauter has one up for $2750, rated in 9.5 condition:


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  15. I've been eyeing that one for a while. However keep in mind that I would have to add 20+% for the Canadian to USD conversion, another 14% taxes, shipping with insurance charges and then dinged the brokerage fee(s) and God only knows what else. Not a pretty picture; but I've been thinking about it.
  16. Al, I would never buy anything from South Africa unless it was made by blacks and under black ownership. Back when I was in high school, my best friend's older brother was murdered by South African agents, and this happaned in Winnipeg, Canada. He was tortured then poisened for being an anti-South African regime activist. This old friend now lives in Vancouver. It really opened my eyes from being just a happy, long-haired, beetle owning highschool student with a Voigtlander Vitomatic 11. ;*)
  17. Frank,

    Tamarkin, NYC has one in EXC for $799. They are great...can't go wrong buying there.
  18. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    You wont even buy the one's in Vancouver. Troll.
  19. Eric~ wrote: "You wont even buy the one's in Vancouver. Troll."
  20. An idiot decides to start up a chicken farm, so he buys a hundred chickens to get up and running.
    A month later he returns to the dealer to get another hundred chickens because the first lot had died.
    Another month passes and he's back at the dealers for another hundred chickens, "I think I know where I'm going wrong" he tells the dealer,
    "I think I'm planting them too deep."
  21. Frank. Frank. Frank. You live in Vancouver which probably has the 2nd highest density of persons of Chinese (Hong Kong) extraction in Canada. A goodly amount of those newly minted Asian Canadians are wealthy, educated and have a goodly amount of leica equipment. In Toronto where I reside there are two chinese language daily papers. Place an add for Leica equipment. As previously stated there are people out other whose eye sight is going and/or now want to go autofocus digital or otherwise. Spend the $20-$45.00 and put in an add offering to relieve these new citizens of their Leicas. It's worked for me. If you get surplus stuff you can even turn it over on ebay etc. and with the inflated prices on the auction sites you should be able to get your camera for free.
  22. On Monday little Chuckie was an hour late to school. His teacher asked him where he'd
    been, and he replied "On Blueberry Hill." She told him he'd get detention if it happened

    On Tuesday, Chuckie was two hours late to school. His teacher asked him where he'd
    been, and he replied again "On top of Blueberry Hill." His teacher gave him detention and
    told him that if he were late again, he'd get detention for the rest of the week.

    On Wednesday, Chuckie came to school four hours late, with a girl. As he walked into the
    classroom he said "Teacher, meet Blueberry Hill!"
  23. Frank,

    Here is how I have sent Leicas, lenses and Rolleiflex gear to friends in British Columbia. I ship the stuff to a mutual friend in Seattle, which as you know is a short drive from Vancouver. The seller drives
    to Seattle, picks up the goodies and drives back to Vancouver. No problem.

  24. "Sherry Krauter has one for $2750"

    That's about $1800 too much
  25. All this talk of Leicas ... and me having just aquired a (pristine)
    Yashica Electro 35 GSN ... I have seen the light!
  26. I have seen the light with 2 pristine ELECTRO GSNs! Their lenses don't unscrew, however.

    Last time I spoke to one, he yelled, "Do nay me low, seafut."
  27. In the British version the punch line is "Death by ungo-bungo!"
  28. Too bad you guys missed Pride Day yesterday, here in beautiful Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. You could of shot some interesting ones.
  29. enlighten us frank.. please show us...
  30. A young soldier walks in to the restroom in the VA building and sees an elderly fellow in an officer's uniform standing in front of the urinal squirming in obvious discomfort. Approching closer he notices the cuffs of the old man's jacket are empty and asks him "Sir, may I offer you some assistance?" "Yes private, thank you, I would appreciate it". So the young soldier unzips the old man's fly and helps him out, you get the idea, zips him up. "Thank you very much private" "No problem, Sir". "Oh" says the private glancing toward the old man's empty shirt cuffs "Korea?" "Naw" replies the old soldier shaking his hands out of his jacket "Gonnorhea".
  31. enlighten us ken.. please show us.
  32. How do you circumcise a hillbilly?

    What's Texas foreplay?

    How about Tennesee foreplay?
  33. Forget it Frank. Your line of work doesn't pay enough (jizz mopper wasn't it?). Stick to your cheap n cheerful Yashicas, you'll probably need one of those trusty 'bricks' to defend yourself when the day comes....he,he,he.

    PS. Your blank firing CL will be just as useless as a handbag when it comes to protecting your 'honour' - so always pack your 'mean piece' when you're out shooting & plenty of Kleenex!
  34. Hehe. Dough nay me low, Marlo. Yes, that sounds right now. ;*)

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