daniele_belardo Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 http://perso.club-internet.fr/yangabin/photographedemode/mertalasetmarcuspigott/photosmertalasetmarcuspigott.html Vogue Italie Mars 2003 Natalia Vodianova b/w shoot (head shoulder crop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary evans Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 That address doesn't work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_sullivan Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 <a href="http://perso.club-internet.fr/yangabin/photographedemode/mertalasetmarcuspigott/photosmertalasetmarcuspigott.html">Vogue Italie, Mars 2003 Natalia Vodianova b/w shoot (head shoulder crop)</a><br><br>you had an extra space in the URL...this will take you there. As to your question....have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_twiss1 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Don't quite understand where you're coming from but presume you want an image of the face alongside the image of the arm. Yes? If so, shoot the head and shoulder shot of the subject leaning on her arm and simply seperate them into two images. Either in Photoshop or by print montage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot_n Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 You mean this one?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniele_belardo Posted December 11, 2003 Author Share Posted December 11, 2003 yes !!!! ........describe me the illumination setup to achieve this effect!!! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Sehr einfach: First, get a woman who has nothing to eat for a month and is taking heroin. Second, get an overhead soft box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_n._wall Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 This woman looks very well fed and clean to me. The shot was probably taken with the chief illumination being soft light coming from above and to the model's left. There is also probably light on the right side of her head to illuminate the thingie in her hair and a light behind her to illuminate the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Looks like jumbo umbrella for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_johnson4 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 i LOVE these photographers. they just had an infrared layout in the september or october W magazine that was incredible. may i ask a question in here as well? what do you think they used in this shot? i mean would this be a high powered strobe with snoot? http://perso.club-internet.fr/yangabin/modeles/leticiabirkheuer/ pleticiaB3HbUsaJuillet03MertEtMarcusJPG.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 Brad: This stuff is unmitigated crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 I wish we could vote Hans off the island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_johnson4 Posted December 11, 2003 Share Posted December 11, 2003 hans that link was to a poor web image these two photographers in mention are a couple of the most highly respected in the business if you took a moment to research and not just blow a heavy warm wind from your arse, you would realize they are masters of light and enjoying a life much happier doing what they want to do than you will ever now go stake a picture of a tree or semething, or simply get out of this thread where others are interested in the topic threads full of pretty streams and moss await your expertise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 i'm sorry, i wonder if it's only me, but that link up there opens some popups and does weird stuff to my browser. I wonder if Hans got mad because of this. Whateva'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Brad Johnson , dec 11, 2003; 11:57 p.m.hans "These two photographers in mention are a couple of the most highly respected in the business" What 'business' would that be? Certainly not photography! "if you took a moment to research..you would realize they are masters of light..." Are you on some kind of mind-altering drug? This stuff is unworthy of comment, let alone praise..... Have you actually seen GOOD photography? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Silly, awkawrd-looking poses, unflattering lighting, exaggerated perspectives for no apparent reason, poor use of lighting, emaciated models... Need I go on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliot_n Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 In your clever American expression: 'Yup'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Elliot: Perhaps I misunderstand. were you agreeing with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 <i>What 'business' would that be? Certainly not photography!</i><p> Like it or not, fashion photography is very much a business. If you don't find the particular photographers mentioned very appealing, perhaps you could recommend some fashion photographers whose work you admire.<P> If you hate all fashion photography, you could start a thread giving a reasoned critique of the genre (though I think one of those just started over on the Philosophy Forum).<P> Back on the topic of reproducing the effect in the Natalia Vodianova shot, I agree with Igor that a large umbrella is the likely light source. A masked softbox or a beauty dish would give a similar quality of light when located close to the model, but there would a more noticeable falloff of intensity between the model's head and body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 What 'business' would that be? Certainly not photography! "Like it or not, fashion photography is very much a business. If you don't find the particular photographers mentioned very appealing, perhaps you could recommend some fashion photographers whose work you admire." Avedon, for one. Perhaps Bailey for another. Scavullo, perhaps. "If you hate all fashion photography, you could start a thread giving a reasoned critique of the genre (though I think one of those just started over on the Philosophy Forum)." I don't "hate all fashion photography" but much of it is horrfyingly bad and culturally inexcusable. The models look like re-animated corpses, the clothes look like military surplus, the make-up resembles something from a mortuary, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Fashion is a go forward, fresh, and creative form of photography, never static. Hans, for a person that I seem to share threads with, you constantly have problems that result in a lot flame throwing. <i>(try to be polite and objective when you disagree--- moderator)</i> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Avedon, Bailey and Scavullo all used skinny girls... are they pimps, too? Baily's photographing of young teenaged girls nude was quite sensational years ago. I would think his soft focus fantasy techniques would just make you livid, Hans. Why is he a good example of good fashion photography for you, if morality is such an important component of that genre? <p>The girl in the example b/w photo certainly doesn't look starved, she has quite normal makeup on and I haven't seen any armies dressed in brocade sleeveless dresses lately, so how do your comments relate to this conversation?... Besides, the topic of this thread is about the quality of the light, not the eating habits of the subject, or the morality of fashion editors, or even current trends in makeup technique. <p>Hans, why are you really so angry?... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 Tom & Eric: I was reacting to the photography exhibited on the pages in question. It is my opinion that it is horrible, with 3 or 4 exceptions. I get my hair cut at a styling salon, and the magazines there are usually for women. While waiting, I often leaf through some of them. I see a lot of contemporary product photography, including that for fragrence, clothing, soaps, make-up, hair products and cosmetics, etc. A lot of the clothing photography is despicable, and I do not refer to morality, but rather to photographic aesthetics. Ugly clothes, ugly lighting, ugly angles, ugly hair and make-up. What do you want me to say? The work is ghastly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted December 12, 2003 Share Posted December 12, 2003 This is the photograph this thread is (ostensibly) about. I'm not sure how you got where you are... t<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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