fergus_hammond Posted November 30, 2000 Share Posted November 30, 2000 Yesterday, I asked a question about changing <p> film when the entire roll isn't exposed. The <p> suggestions worked well. <p> However... <p> The reason I wanted to do it - using color <p> film at a party - ended in tears. I got my <p> film back from the pro lab I used and it's <p> horrible! It's Kodak Supra 400 processed <p> normally. The light wasn't great at the <p> restaurant but it wasn't terrible either - <p> 1/60 at f2.8, perhaps. I was using the <p> Summilux 35. <p> I scanned the negatives using a Kodak RFS <p> 3600. I didn't get prints made. The scanner is <p> fairly new, so I thought it might be an issue <p> of calibration, especially as this is the <p> first color negative film I've scanned. <p> However, I then scanned some Supra I took in <p> daylight using an F100 and the results are <p> fine. <p> I would really appreciate any suggestions you <p> might have on this issue. <p> Here's the bad: <p> http://www.dingoboy.com/bad.jpg <p> Here's the good from the F100: <p> http://www.dingoboy.com/good.jpg <p> I'm not unfamiliar with poor results but these just seem odd. <p> Regards, Fergus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kens Posted December 1, 2000 Share Posted December 1, 2000 On the "bad" shot, I notice the colors look pretty good on the left side - notice the green & blue colored lights, the wall decorations, and the skin tine of the person at the far left. The rest of the frame seems washed with an unnatural light. Notice the incadescent - maybe halogen - spotlights on the ceiling - these lights can be bad news for outdoor color balanced flm. Your "good" shot, on the other hand, is an outdoor shot - no artifical lights at all. <p> Before suspecting any of the equipment, I would shoot a single roll in a variety of lighting situations, outdoors and indoors with different types of lighting. Then have prints made - notice the different effect of different lights on outdoor film. Then scan the negs in to see how they match the prints. <p> You may find all your equipment is working just fine. It may be just the outdoor film reacting differently to different types of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted December 1, 2000 Share Posted December 1, 2000 You're comparing a photograph made under artifical light with one made in natural light, which doesn't make any sense. The color looks exactly like what one gets with incandescent light. I'd recommend a good book on lighting, it has nothing to do with the specific film. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergus_hammond Posted December 1, 2000 Author Share Posted December 1, 2000 Ok, both answers make sense to me. I did have a "good" indoor shot but I guess it was under a different type of light. I'm not sure what type of light the restaurant had. I'll have to go back and take a look. I'm sure they'll think I'm crazy. <p> Any suggestions on good books regarding this subject? I'm used to digital cameras (the Nikon D1) and B&W film but this issue is new to me. <p> Regards, Fergus <p> P.S. Sorry about the odd formatting on the original post. I copy/pasted from another program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_collier Posted December 1, 2000 Share Posted December 1, 2000 Why are you not correcting the colour of your indoor shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_chefurka Posted December 1, 2000 Share Posted December 1, 2000 That's exactly the colour I'd expect from an uncorrected indoor shot under incandescent light. You should be able to do a fair bit with it in Photoshop or any other photo editing program. Start by pulling out a lot of red and yellow - you'll see a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted December 1, 2000 Share Posted December 1, 2000 There's an excellent book that is probably out of print by Michael Freeman called "Light." You may be able to find it second hand. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tse_sung_wu7 Posted December 2, 2000 Share Posted December 2, 2000 Apples and jackfruit!!! <p> Perhaps any basic book on color photog. will clear things up. I've always enjoyed leafing through the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/ obidos/ASIN/0821225758/102-2471527-0822548">books</a> by John Schaeffer. <p> HTH, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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