Sanford Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Everything works well with Yosemite but Apple is aggressively pushing High Sierra. I don't want to chance losing Element 8 which may or may not be compatible High Sierra. And no, I don't want purchase new editing software just to update my computer when it works fine as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I cautiously installed High Sierra (upgrade from Sierra) in a new laptop, after populating it from another laptop using Migration Assistant. I have experienced no problems with Adobe CC products and other software I use routinely for photography, photos and video. High Sierra is on its third revision, which is generally regarded as a safe interval. I did not update (upgrade?) the Apple file system. I'm satisfied that it is good to go, at least with the latest version of Adobe CC. If you have the necessary disk space and memory, you can install High Sierra and run it in a virtual window (q.v., Windows/Parallels). That would let you exercise your current software in a safe environment, which could easily be reversed. Once installed as the main OS, you can't go back. When I first installed Sierra, Adobe Premiere Pro would not compile video (Media Encoder) without crashing. It took nearly 6 months before these issues were completely resolved, spanning two updates to Sierra and three updates to Premiere Pro. Typical for serious problems, both parties blamed the other, and offered no help. The crashes locked the drives, and could only be cleared with a hard power cycle. I found that I could not read and write to the same disc using Media Encoder. Using an external SSD solved that problem and speeded compilation in the process (I still do that). The crash was probably a "deadly embrace", wherein a handshake was requested but never returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supriyo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 There were some recent discussions on how Silver efex plugin in PS doesn’t work so well in High Sierra and a workaround was proposed. Since I use silver efex a lot, I am skipping upgrading right now. As long as you apply the security updates regularly, I don’t think it’s terribly necessary to upgrade right away. BTW, apple may have already eaten away 1 Gb of your space by proactively downloading the High Sierra installer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I don't know about Elements 8 specifically, but one of the big hang-ups with 10.13 is that Apple has basically deprecated support for 32 bit applications. I'm holding on to Sierra as long as it continues getting security updates for that reason. IF Elements 8 is 64 bit, you should be fine. If not, proceed with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I use a 2010 Mac Pro with the main hard drive running High Sierra, and an otherwise duplicate hard drive running Sierra, just in case of trouble. I use Photoshop CS5 with NIK and other plugins. At first, ColorEfex did not work in High Sierra (SilverEfex did work). Deleting NIK plugins and then downloading and reinstalling the plugins cured the problem, although I read that there was not supposed to be any updates to the NIK software. Perhaps something was updated recently to cure this problem? My one remaining problem that I have, so far, discovered with High Sierra is that I can not print from Photoshop CS5 without crashing Photoshop. I use an Epson R2880 for printing photographs. Printing works fine in Affinity Photo under High Sierra. So, now if I want to print an image that I have edited in Photoshop using High Sierra, I save the file as a tiff and print it using Affinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I went to High Sierra on both my machines that were new enough for it. A few minor problems with Nik, but nothing serious and most stuff works better under High Sierra. This will be the last one for the old legacy software, however. (macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 warns users about 32-bit software's impending demise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supriyo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 A few minor problems with Nik, but nothing serious and most stuff works better under High Sierra. Thanks. Which areas do you find the most improvements in? (Not intending to make this discussion about Apple OS though) I am trying to decide whether to upgrade or not, but always have to weigh in the chances of things breaking and slowing down workdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I originally installed MacOS High Sierra as an upgrade to Sierra on a Mac Pro (the black cylinder one, 32 GB 1866 MHz DDR3) which handled it easily. I had a few problems with Photoshop 5 but later upgrades to the High Sierra quickly stopped that. The differences from Sierra are not great, but the machine just seems a bit quicker and more responsive. Just a week ago, I finally decided to upgrade from Mavericks on my MacBook Air (4GB 2014). After a few problems with what seems to have been a corrupted version of Mavericks, I reinstalled Mavericks and then the upgrade to High Sierra went smoothly. So far, High Sierra has proved easily within the capabilities of this more limited laptop. Like the MacPro, much of my software on this is 32-bit, but no problems of any major concern so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) I'm running High Sierra on two systems-an old white MacBook(unibody) and a Mac Pro 5,1. I forget if the Macbook has 8 or 16gb of RAM. It's the 2010 version that supports up to 16gb, and given how much other money I've dropped into it(new battery from OWC/Newertech, Samsung EVO SSD) I can see myself having put 16gb in it, although it would have depended on the cost when I did it. In any case, it's usable with High Sierra, but nothing to write home about. It's a lot peppier on El Capitan. The MP will EVENTUALLY replace my G5 for scanning duties, but I had some hiccups with a processor upgrade and am not swapping it until I get that sorted(stock it was 2x4 core 2.4ghz, trying to upgrade to 2x6 core 3.46ghz-something that others have done but is giving me headaches). Since Nikon Scan was never ported to Intel, 10.6.8(Snow Leopard) is the newest OS I can run with it. For that reason, the plan is to have it dual boot Snow Leopard and High Sierra. I have both OSs on PCIe SSDs-the one for Snow Leopard came from a MacBook Air, and the High Sierra was given to me by the owner of a "trash can"(6,1) Mac Pro at work after I upgraded his drive. In any case, between 32gb RAM, the fast processors, and the PCIe storage, Snow Leopard almost seems to read my mind. High Sierra is plenty fast on it. The only issue is that SL doesn't know what to do with an APFS volume so it wants to format the SL drive every time I boot it :) My main computer is a 2012 MacBook Pro, and it's staying on Sierra for the time being. Edited April 11, 2018 by ben_hutcherson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supriyo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I originally installed MacOS High Sierra as an upgrade to Sierra on a Mac Pro (the black cylinder one, 32 GB 1866 MHz DDR3) which handled it easily. I had a few problems with Photoshop 5 but later upgrades to the High Sierra quickly stopped that. The differences from Sierra are not great, but the machine just seems a bit quicker and more responsive. Just a week ago, I finally decided to upgrade from Mavericks on my MacBook Air (4GB 2014). After a few problems with what seems to have been a corrupted version of Mavericks, I reinstalled Mavericks and then the upgrade to High Sierra went smoothly. So far, High Sierra has proved easily within the capabilities of this more limited laptop. Like the MacPro, much of my software on this is 32-bit, but no problems of any major concern so far Thanks. I think I will give it a try, after I backup everything. BTW, the Nik plugins can once more be downloaded for free from the DxO website, but I think its just the repackaged google version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaellinder Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Supriyo, my understanding is that DxO plans to update the NIK bundle before releasing it. Just to play it safe, I'm sticking to MacOS Sierra; my Mac is a 2012 model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur_gottschalk Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Yikes! After reading through this I realize why I stick to film. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supriyo Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Supriyo, my understanding is that DxO plans to update the NIK bundle before releasing it. Just to play it safe, I'm sticking to MacOS Sierra; my Mac is a 2012 model. Michael, if you go to the DxO website and give them your email address (and be prepared for more junk mail ), you can actually download the latest version of the Nik package for free. I don’t know how well it works on High Sierra, since I haven’t installed it yet, using the old version from google. However it’s good to see that it’s being developed and updated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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