david_hall8 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I know I am posting this inquiry a little late, but I hope someone can offer me suggestions for shooting on-location. I will be utilizing a 35mm format (Nikon F4, Nikon F90X, & Nikon D100) and will be shooting beach scenes (yes, we're warm here in Florida) & some sidewalk cafe scenes. I am aware that if I plan to use existing (ambient) light, the best times of the day are early morning and late afternoon. However, that does not necessarily suit my model's schedule. She is available between 2:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. I can only imagine the light will be harsh and deep shadows will result. I could use an opaque panel, reflector, or diffusion panel; however, would I not need one the size of a house (maybe I am exagerating somewhat) to block/diffuse/reflect some of that light? We could shoot in the shade, but I fail to understand the concept of fill-flash (& my photos attest to that fact). I have a Nikon SB26, so I know I can compensate for fill-flash; I just do not completely understand how. Finally, the model is semi-professional (at least 50% of her income comes from modeling), and she can be a real female dog (trying to keep this clean). She's great at posing, but does not have even the faintest understanding of light and its affect on the overall image. She thinks a flash is the answer to everything! Any suggestions of how to deal with a whiny, control freak, model (bodily harm is out of the question & somewhat unethical). Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 <i>Any suggestions of how to deal with a whiny, control freak, model (bodily harm is out of the question & somewhat unethical). </i><P>Simple: work with someone else. Unless you're getting paid to shoot someone who is a pain in the ass, don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Good luck and remember to keep your gear a few feet above the sand.Three bodies are probably two too many, but it's your back. If you let the model control the shoot, perhaps you should pass on the task... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j._scott_schrader Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 You are the photographer, you are the one getting paid for this you need to direct the shoot and that will include the time of day that it takes place. If it was in studio I can see you working with her a little on the time...but on location the time of day is critical! The decision can't be left up to the model as to what time of day is best for the shoot. Take charge of the shoot, ...if necessary find another model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_ngo1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Anabel Williams talks about portraiture with direct sunlight in her book. Basically her tips are: Place subject under top shade, use reflected light, and have the subject look away from the camera so that the shadows are more flattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Unless this is a famous super-model, get a new model. This stuff is hard enough without putting up with brats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkantor Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 I did that at my very first photo workshop and continue to do the same kinds of shots now. What's missing from your post is what these pictures are for. Plan out the types of shots you need ahead of time and pick the location and lighting to match. For any of these shots, you have five choices: find an area with natural indirect light (under a tree or in the shadow of a building), use a diffuser (all you need is a 40" round one - and someone to hold it for you), use a reflector (I've used as large as 3'x6' and as small as 8"), use fill at 1 stop below ambient (unless you are trying for a special effect) which your camera probably does on program mode, or use direct sun and take advantage of those wonderful shadows (a lot of fashion photography is done that way). As for the model, start out with some flash pictures to get her settled down (and to experiment with your technique) and slip in the others for "a different kind of look." And have her check out the Sports Illustrated site. They have virtual panoramas of a number of the shoots and not a single one has a flash evident. Of course, it's critical to have high quality hair and makeup help - as well as excellent styling (clothes, props, location). And maybe so many models are on drugs because the photographers give it to them to keep them quiet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkantor Posted February 19, 2003 Share Posted February 19, 2003 By the way, this is a shot from that first workshop. A 15-year-old model under a tree on South Beach. No flash, reflectors, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janet cull Posted February 20, 2003 Share Posted February 20, 2003 John - I think that's really pretty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_cadwising Posted March 3, 2003 Share Posted March 3, 2003 i wouldn't imagine the light to be all <i>that</i> harsh during that time. i'd just nix the flash, and use the reflector. or find a spot in the shade. i took this shot in downtown san fran last month, about the same time frame on a very bright day. i found a doorway on the shady side of the street, and the glass from the panes and the tile on the ground made for ample light and some nice reflections in the eyes. i didn't even need the reflector. <p align=center> <img src=http://www.photo.net/photodb/image-display?photo_id=1264899&size=md border=0> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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