Help me choose an 800ISO or something that pushes well to 800

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by brambor, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. The St.Nicholas party is coming up again. Last year it was my D30 with 24/1.4 lens that did the job quite well but since I shoot film 99% of the time nowadays I would like to use my M6 with 35mm Summicron. the 24mm on a 1.6 crop was also a little too tight for shooting so the 35mm Summicron will do better. I'm not totally sure if I want to shoot Tri-X on this one. I wouldn't mind a Provia 400 in color but I have a feeling if I wouldn't do better pushing to 800. How does Tri-x pushed to 800 look like?
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  2. NPZ for C41, Neopan 1600 for B&W.
     
  3. Fujipress 800 is my first choice
     
  4. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    C41=NPZ

    B&W=Neopan 1600, Delta 3200

    E6=EPJ 320
     
  5. Fuji Superia 800 or Press 800. Canon 20D ISO 800 w 20mm 2.8 (32mm @ 1.6 factor). Cheers!
     
  6. NPZ for C-41 and Neopan 1600 for B&W

    Fred
     
  7. News photographers often pushed Tri-X to 1600, so a one-stop push to 800 shouldn't be a problem. You should see a bit more grain, but it shouldn't be objectionable. It's an easy film to handle.
     
  8. Fuji Press 800 or Neopan 1600.
     
  9. Another vote here for the Fuji NPZ / G-800 / Press 800 family, remembering lots of exposure for lowest color noise.
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  10. HP5+ in Diafine gives a great 800 negarive. No push required.
    Calumet and Adorama both carry Diafine.
     
  11. NPZ all the way for color.
     
  12. Provia 400. The one-stop push will cost you $$ but I see no increase in grain over 400 when projected on a 5 ft screen...

    Wai Leong
     
  13. good tips. Thank you guys. Looks like NPZ it will be then and I will push Trix to 800 after the NPZ roll is done. Someone suggested Canon EF 20mm/2.8 - no thanks. I sold that lens after 2 months of trying to like it.
     
  14. Rene,

    If you can develop yourself, then Tri-X @ 1250 in Diafine is great.

    Fuji NPZ for color. For Digital, Noise Ninja does a GREAT job cleaning up Digi noise.

    jmp
     
  15. <<I will push Trix to 800 after the NPZ roll is done. >>

    I happened to have looked at the Tri-X info on the Kodak website the other day and saw
    the following statement:

    "Because of these films' exposure latitude, you can underexpose by one stop and use
    normal processing times. Prints will show a slight loss in shadow detail."

    As a consequence of this advice the data sheet only contains instructions for pushing it
    two and three stops (no info for pushing it one stop).

    It would be interesting to compare their advice of shooting it at 800 and processing
    normally to shooting it at 800 and pushing it especially looking at the shadows.

    I suspect their advice would yeild what they consider to be better results, but both cases
    could be interesting to look at.

    Full info:

    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f4017/f4017.jhtml?
    id=0.1.18.14.23.16.14&lc=en#pushproc
     
  16. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    "It would be interesting to compare their advice of shooting it at 800 and processing normally to shooting it at 800 and pushing it especially looking at the shadows."

    Not really. Even rated at 400 and processed at recommended times, it's flat. A further one stop under would be thin. I've never grown fond of tri-x and preferred the competitors HP5. Both of them rated in half and developed slightly under normal time seemed to achieved decent density. And rated at 125, pull one, was my favorite, light allowing of course. For faster times, I rested on HP5 @1250, push two in ID-11, 1+1. All of this mentioned with gentle inversions for the first 15 seconds and then for ten seconds every minute there after.
     
  17. After trying around I've pretty much settled on Tri-x. I have now used Trix exclusively for the past 6 months. Interestingly enough my development time is 6.5 minutes in 20C for 400 rated film. If I go any shorter time then the film is under developed (judging from the side lettering on the film)I wonder what it will be for 800ISO
     
  18. Oops... 6.5 minutes in HC110
     
  19. Fuji Venus 800 ISO (Canon 7 + Contax RF adapter + Sonnar 85/2)
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  20. that's quite nice. What does Fuji Venus translate to the US Market ?
     
  21. Bought Fuji NPZ 800 yesterday and stuffed it into my Konica Autoreflex T1 (M6 has Tri-X right now) and rated it at 650. I will use my Hexanon 57mm 1.2
     

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