jim_cain Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 I lurk and post over on the Leica Forum as I use an M. Am considering buying the above (the later has the old meter tab) for taking Ebay pictures and other macro work. Am a real newby when it comes to SLR and Nikon-- Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_bradtke Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 So what is the question?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougs Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 i am not sure what your question is, do you want to buy the above setup? did you want opinions on the above setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 The FM3a body works best with Ais and Ai lenses. Non-Ai lenses are probably not a good choice. What variety 55mm micro 2.8 you are thinking of is......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_cain Posted December 18, 2003 Author Share Posted December 18, 2003 Sorry, yes I did want opinions on this setup. I want a close focus SLR because the M won't. Don't care about AF. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walterh Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Jim, i dont know how large your operation at ebay is but just to put some images into ebay i would take any cheap macro lens with any cheap body, decent BW film and 4 light bulbs. take some testshots - remember on one roll of film you can take 36 variations of exposure time af say F11 or F11 and off you go. the 55/2.8 micro nikkor is a very capable macro lens, just about as good as they come. if you buy one do yourself a favor and do not restrict yourself to shoot stuff for ebay. :-P cheers walter PS take my comment with a grain of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Lai Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 55mm f/2.8 Micro lens is great for macro AND at infinity. A really wonderful lens. You will need a PK-13 tube if you want to achieve 1:1 magnification with the lens.<p>For macro, a camera with TTL flash capability will be useful. You may want to consider a nice used Nikon FG. It has TTL flash, as well as Manual, Auto and Program exposure modes with AI/AIS lenses. In decent shape, the body is around $100.<p>An FM3a body will cost about 4 to 5 times this price. A Leica M7 is 25X this price? You may well go into sticker shock when you discover how inexpensive Nikon gear is, in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spencer_hahn Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 2 questions: Why wouldn't you want just a digital p+s with maybe a close-up adapter if you're shooting just for ebay? and Why would you need the FM3a if it's just for ebay--why not just get the cheapest manual/mechanical camera you can buy. As I recall, FM3a's are fairly expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 If your needs include more than photos for eBay the FM3a has standard TTL flash and the 55/2.8 Micro Nikkor will give more than 110 lines/mm on high resolution film (probably at f/5.6 perhaps f/8.0) and maybe 1/4 life size. I suggest an SB-24 or 25 speedlight or for a compact unit SB-15 or perhaps SB-27. I recommend the FM3a if you have needs in macro or telephoto. I�d love an MP but I�d only want say 28, 35 and 50mm lenses. For a nice mini system I�d add a 24/2.8 and 105/2.5 in AI or AIS to the 55/2.8. Just a thought. You might consider the FE2 as the FM3a despite its name is an FE family camera. FE2 has standard TTL flash and quarts timed shutter speeds from 8 sec. to 1/4,000th second. Regards, Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_cain Posted December 18, 2003 Author Share Posted December 18, 2003 Thank you for your help. I want the FM3a because it's small and has the features I want. and those I don't. As for the lens, (55 micro 2.8), I will sort out the differences between the "AIS" and "AI" and "old" "meter tabbed"" versions (you know I'm confused). As David Hartman pointed out , the M's are good in the middle and SLR are better at the extremes, ie telephoto and macro. Will be buying used and look forward to using an SLR system I dropped in 1982 in favor of a Minolta CLE outfit. Happy holidays to all. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_p1 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hi Jim, If the 55 is f2.8 than it is at least Ai. Older 55 micros (pre Ai) were f3.5. Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_p1 Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 I may add that Ai and Ais lenses also have metering prongs for backwards compatibility with older cameras (20+ years old cameras). I happen to have a shot made with this 55 f2.8 in my folder, if you just want to take a look... the caption is Planorbis. Good bye Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_h._hartman Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 The 55/2.8 Micro-Nikkor is only available as an AIS and AF. Older 55mm(s) were f/3.5, both AI and non-AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabdas Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 "As David Hartman pointed out , the M's are good in the middle and SLR are better at the extremes, ie telephoto and macro." Reading David's post I'm not sure that's what David meant. An SLR should be quite "good in the middle" if you are using the right lenses and technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushmeister Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 For ebay you've got to digitize anyway, right? If the prime need is shooting for ebay auctions why wouldn't you just buy a digital with good macro capability? Did you know Sony digital cameras use Zeiss glass? Yes, that's Zeiss, as in Leica and Hasselblad. My obsolete Sony P-30 (a palry 1.3 megapixels)did superb macro work for me when I was selling off my medium format stuff. Use a tripod and a couple 100 watt bulbs like I did and if you have to, adjust color and file size in practically any software. For the internet and ebay you don't want monster picture files anyway because they take too long to load. By the way, I own an FM-2 and the 55mm 3.5 Micro-Nikkor and that combination produces dynamite images for sure. With everyone gone spastic with AF that lens or its 2.8 successor is readily available now, dirt cheap. It focuses from Infinity down to 6 inches without extension rings. The Sony P-30 does the same thing! But, with digital you got instant pictures and if they ain't no good you just shoot 'em over, better.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan_dandar Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 I don't own an FM3A but do own an FE2. The FM3A is often called an FE3 or "An FE2 with mechanical backup at all speeds" (although there are a couple other changes as well). You could get an FE2 for much less than an FM3A and it's an insanely nice body. I don't know that I'll ever sell mine. I also own an AI Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 lens. It's **easily** my sharpest lens and is very tough. It has been dropped outside onto a hard wood floor from chest level and had not one mark on it. It has been thrown around a camera bag since I bought it... has been bumped, banged, and tossed many many times and still works like new. I also highly recommend buying the PK-13 extension ring for it so let it focus down to 1:1 since they're cheap and useful. I don't think you can go wrong with that combo. You may even want to pick up a few other cheap lenses to play with. I recently bought a used Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 AI lens for $55. You could get a Nikkor 24mm f/2.8 or 20mm f/4 for around $125 to $160 or so. There are even some longer lenses you may want like an 85mm f/1.4 or even 300mm f/2.0. It's nice to not be restricted by frame lines, sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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