jsc1 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Question: Which "system" is the "better paperweight?" Barnack-style Leica or "flagship" Nikon D2X... Method: Using "standardized" Post-It brand notes, made by 3M, I placed a Leica IIIf RD ST w/ Leicavit Rapidwinder, Okaro eyepiece and Summar 50/2 with SOOMP hood on a stack of Post-It Notes. I then photographed the result from two views. Then, I placed a Nikon D2X with a Nikkor 50/1.4 AIS, Hoya 52mm UV[0] filter and an HS-9 hood on the same pile of Post-It notes. I photographed the result from two views. Discussion: I realize there will almost certainly be ferocious argument but I do think the inference is unavoidable. Using a Nikon D2X as a paperweight for 3M Post-It Notes is dangerous practice. The Post-It notes seem to disappear unless you make a habit of always looking very carefully from the side. On the other hand, the Barnack system permits easy recognition of the distinctive pink Post-It notes even from above. Conclusion: As a paperweight for the ubiquitous and widely used 3M Post-It brand notes, the Barnack-style Leica IIIf RD ST w/ Leicavit Rapidwinder, Okaro eyepiece and Summar 50/2 with SOOMP hood is superior to the Nikon D2X w/ Nikkor 50/1.4 AIS, Hoya 52mm UV[0] filter and an HS-9 hood.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_larese1 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Brilliant research, I'd like to review your lab notes. Was there a control group at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephane camus Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 When I read the title of your posting, I thought here is a guy who is trying to compare oranges and apples. <br> I cannot however help thinking that the Nikon D2X with Nikkor 50/1,4 would be a superior support for the 3M post-it than the Leica IIIf RD ST w/ Leicavit Rapidwinder, but it is another test. If ever you have time to perform this daunting task, please do so... I do not have pink 3M post-it so I cannot do the test myself. <br> THanks for the laught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_morris4 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 While I applaud the conclusions, I'm puzzled by the test construction. 3M Post-It brand notes need no weighting, since they are self-adhesive. You should run the tests again with some type of paper that genuinely needs to be held down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Were there batteries in the D2X - and were there any pink post-it notes injured during the making of this test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsc1 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Rich Silfver , may 10, 2006; 10:27 a.m.Were there batteries in the D2X - and were there any pink post-it notes injured during the making of this test? It's always nice to hear from California! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 We care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 OMG! Everybody knows that only classic yellow Post-It notes should be used with classic Leica rangefinder cameras! Shame on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I agree with Al on this one; the use of pink post-it notes is just another indication of how the radical gay agenda is making inroads on mainstream American culuture. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_brewton Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 So, Kevin. What do you think of major league baseball using the pink bats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 John, I used a "winky" emoticon. Which means I was just kidding. Next time I'll use [irony]...[/irony] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsc1 Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 John Brewton , may 10, 2006; 11:33 a.m. So, Kevin. What do you think of major league baseball using the pink bats? Where? "Pink" bats are legal. John... Please... a little respect for my "agenda..." I like to make people smile... it's so "hard to come by." So please! Ease the "politics" and "smile." Isn't this "funny?" Frankly. I like "pink." As my "XY" genone for "XX" wife would attest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_thistle Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Shouldn't you have included a Pentax K1000 as a control variable! LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_a._junker1 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Leave either of them on their back,no lens cap, focused at infiniti in bright sunlight and you'll be making paper weights for sure because of burnt shutter or N2X internals. In which case the better paperweight is the one that, at the lower price, can be repaired or replaced. Probably the wrong way around to go with the IIIf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Two points for this one, Josiah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pensacolaphoto Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Just a few minutes ago I was looing at my small Minolta-16 MG-S camera that seems perfect as a paperweight, and now you have shown me two additional options for consideration! What a confusion. How do I choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 This is not a fair test !! We cannot confirm from the images that there is a block of Post-It notes under the Nikon. if you want us to take you seriously then you need to do better tahn this Josiah. Also, why such a big age difference? The Leica took 40 years to become a paper weight, the Nikon DSLR just 2 years. The Canon 1Ds took 3 years although it's a bit too heavy for a paper weight. Are you truly being impartial here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 A friend of mine just found an old paperweight in the attic. It has the original box and doesn't look as if it ever has weighed down a single paper. How do I find out about the value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I think we are forgetting that the Summar alone is probably as heavy as the Nikon, if the Nikon is a recent one (I speak with great lack of experience here). (I DO know my 'R' from my Elpro, though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summitar Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 How does define and measure the "utility" of a paperweight? I would think that having some functionality other than being a paperweight would be a negative value -- might induce someone to use the object other than as a paperweight. So I would surmise that neither of your candidates are optimal. At least compared with a goodly portion of the cameras I have acquired via evilbay. These objects serve no other earthly purpose, not even as doorstops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icuneko Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Chrome vs. Black. Unfair comparison!!! Is nothing sacred anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_chan5 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The bokeh on that Nikon is so awful, we should convene a War Crimes Tribunal. Plus, Nikon has some of their lenses made by Cosina, so therefore all Nikon bodies are basically Japanese made Holgas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I strongly suspect that the terpsichorean angels who usually congrebate on PINHEADS have infiltrated this experiment Besides I can't imagine why anyone would think a pad of post-its need weighting in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian bastin Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 In the above posting I did, of course, mean 'R's; though I unfortunately, in fact, have no 'R's at present and only one ELPRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliot_rosen1 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Josiah, how do you manage to keep on posting questions when your account was listed as deleted (we still don't know why it was deleted) several days ago. You must know something the rest of us don't. Anyway, good to hear from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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