Hassy Bellows on Kiev 88

Discussion in 'Medium Format' started by harry_pluta|1, Jun 30, 1998.

  1. Hi everyone,

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    First off, thanks for all the help with the finder battery question I had, everything is working fine now.

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    Now on to todays question. I know that you cannot use a Kiev 88 lens on a Hassy 1000f or 1600f, this is due to a clearance issue I believe. However my question is, can you use a Kiev lense on a Hassy 1000f bellows?

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    I have a chance to purchase on at what would be a reasonable price, but my only use would be if i could use it with my Kiev.

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    Any takers on this one.

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    Many thanks in advance,
    -harry
     
  2. Greetings ;-) - You would seem to have two obvious options.

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    The easiest is to get a machinist to make a simple adapter to go from the Kiev lens mount to the desired bellows mount - hasselblad 1000f here.

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    Lacking a machinist, you could cheat, as I do, by mating a Kiev rear lens cap to a body cap (for bellows or body) with epoxy and drill out the center, producing a simple adapter at low cost. See my page on homebrew medium format lenses for more details at http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/bronhb.html.

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    The bad news is that using a bellows and/or adapter will mount the lens beyond infinity focusing
    distance - so you can't focus at infinity. Both the Kiev-88 and Hasselblad 1000f/1600f have about the same lens registration distance (circa 82mm as I recall).

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    Another approach I have seen hassy owners use is to get a local machinist to re-thread the Kiev lenses to exactly match the Hasselblad 1000f/1600f thread mount. This retains
    infinity focus etc., but you lose use of these modified lenses on your old Kiev mount cameras.

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    I can provide a reference to someone who will remount Kiev88 lenses into hasselblad mounts, not only the older 1000f
    and 1600f but the more recent 500c/m series mounts etc via my site at:
    http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/hassy.html top article/posting. As an example, he is offering Hasselblad 500c/m mount Kiev88 fisheye 30mm f3.5 180deg. lenses in Hasselblad mount for $900US etc.

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    Also, some recent reviews have pointed out that the Kiev lenses, which are often maligned for lens flare, are usually not the culprit, rather, it is the lack of light absorbing flocking in the bodies etc. For more info on this, see last post on http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/mf/kiev88.html

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    In short, the Kiev lenses are interesting, low cost, med fmt optics..
     
  3. Would not just purchasing the Kiev extension tubes be easier and cheaper? They sell used for $79.00 and new for no more that $170.00 ( Both size combined ).

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    Ed
     
  4. I've thought about the extension tubes, and that is the route I will probably go. I do a quite a bit of macro work, specificly flowers and glassware and I wanted the extra control that the bellows offers, composing and focusing with extension tubes can be a trying adventure.

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    Best Regards,
    -harry
     
  5. <<<Would not just purchasing the Kiev extension tubes be easier and cheaper? They sell used for $79.00 and new for no more that $170.00 (Both size combined).>>>

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    We have sell new sets for $35 (20+40mm set for Kiev-60 or 19+48mm set for Kiev-88).
     
  6. <<<PC-Mir-38 by Photo Arsenal, Germany>>>

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    The problem is that this is conventional Mir-38 3.5/65mm lens which have been rebuild as shift lens. Kiev Arsenal (I mean real Kiev plant) NEVER made this lens or even prototypes.
     

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