nick_davis Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Does anyone really know why Nikon has chosen to release all new lenses as G series lenses? There must be thousands of potential customers in the world who cannot use G series lenses. It seems like such a stupid thing to do because it doesn't appear that it makes the lenses any more affordable or better in any way. I would love to have the new 14-24mm, and someday the 600mm f/4 AF-S, but I would not be able to use these with most of my cameras so I would be hesitant to purchase them. Of my 10 Nikon SLR's only 3 of them have in-camera aperture setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Not sure, but I would think maybe cost reduction. I have trouble getting over this concept and don't buy G lenses, but it's probably just my old fashioned thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_276104 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 It's just progress, even if you disagree with it. The first G-compatible body was the F5, announced in 1996. AF-S is usable back to cameras like the the N90/s and N70 of the early 90s. Even the F4 can use AF-S. As for "thousands of potential customers", most people buying into Nikon in this day and age don't even know what an aperture ring is. I can recall at least one thread here on photo.net from someone stating "What are all those little numbers near the lens mount?" I'm not saying this to argue with you - I wish all lenses still had aperture rings. The cost argument has been around for quite awhile but high end lenses aren't getting any cheaper. Although, I paid considerably less for the 12-24 DX (US $920) than I did for the 17-35 (US $1,500). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 As Eric points out, with a couple of exceptions such as the now discontinued FM3a, which maintained the 1977 FM/FE design, almost all Nikon SLRs introduced since the 1996 F5 are fully compatible with G lenses. In fact, the F5 is also the first Nikon SLR that is compatible with the VR feature. I wonder how many people would buy a $9000+ 600mm/f4 AF-S VR G lens to match a pre-1996 body that is either manual focus or has primitive AF and incompatible with VR. Today, in the used market, a very good F100 probably costs $300 or so and an F5 is around $500. If you can afford a $9000 600mm/f4 or a $1600 14-24mm/f2.8 or 24-70mm/f2.8, you should be able to afford a body to go with those lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 For sure, cost reduction is one of the reason. it doesn't mean that Nikon will pass the saving to the users. Also in my case, since I bought my first camera in 1982 the Aperture ring its been useless. They were Canon film cameras but the aperture was set on the camera. Now with Nikon DSLR's the aperture ring is on the way. Some times while changing lenses it moves. In a lens, I think the less moving parts, the better. So I like the G series! Rene' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I think we are lucky the older lenses still work at all. If you want to do everything, graduate to a view camera. Those do nothing you do not tell it to do and you have to tell it every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 may be time to upgrade your SLRs or move to DSLRs. IMO most people with camera non compatibles with a G lens are not potential costumes for them, you maybe the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_276104 Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Juanjo - I've missed you around here! Any new f/1.4 or f/1.8 lenses to report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_davis Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Shun, I do have bodies that are compatible with the G series lenses. If I were to purchase the 600mm I would certainly use it mostly with my F100, or maybe even my N80, but it would be nice if it also worked with my F4s' because even though the F4s is old it focuses quite fast with AF-S lenses. I won't argue that most of Nikon's customers are purchasing the lenses for newer cameras that are G compatible but there still must be a great deal of people who are not. It seems like a poor business decision to purposely alienate a portion of your customers (users who PREFER the older bodies like me) unless there were some financial benefit to doing so. I just wonder what that could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 :D Eric, no new 1.4 or 1.8s lenses to report..., but lately I been having a lot of fun with a 410 (cc that is.. ;)) <img src="http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc112/Juanjo_Viagran/_DSC2973-2.jpg"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Nick, I have heard the speculation that somehow Nikon cannot put AF-S and VR into a lens that has an aperture ring, but I did not get a satisfactory explanation why that is so. However, the fact of the matter is that there is no non-G AF-S VR lens. The only VR lens that has an aperture ring is the 80-400mm which is not AF-S. In any case, you can use the 14-24, 24-70, and 600mm/f4 AF-S VR on the F4 in either the P or S exposure modes. Since you insist to use lenses introduced in 2007 on a body introduced 19 years earlier in 1988, unfortunately you have to accept some inconvenience. Otherwise, there are two earlier versions of the 600mm/f4 AF-S that have an aperture ring but no VR. You may be better off getting one of those since VR won't be functional on the F4 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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