phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Right,we go to weddings, christenings, parties, club dinners, etc and there is always a photographer there, well I have a fantastic idea. <p> Funeral photographer. Come on now, think about it, you could have a set of prints to remember your loved ones at their last hours on this Earth.AND, the Leica RF would be the perfect tool for the job, no noise. <p> Is that a bleedin' great idea or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Your fantastic bleedin' great idea is not novel. <p> I have taken pictures, for hire, at more than several funerals. Some have asked for images of the person who passed on, in their casket, but most have not. I usually take a few anyway (co-ordinate with funeral director), since the first funeral I shot included none of those, and I was asked by other family members later on for one (and I came up short). If they don't ask, I won't present it, and the pictures in the casket are always done before or after the viewing, never with other people and family members around. <p> The REAL reason for photos at a funeral, is that in many instances, family, friends, loved ones, old school chums, have come from long distances to pay their respects. It is a gathering of people who's common thread is intertwined around the departed. Often, or more like usually, there is just not a chance otherwise to get photos of these folks together, and that is why I have photographed funerals. It is a moving, and touching experience in every case, and in every case, I have been made to feel like a member of the family. <p> I usually use a Hasselblad 500c/m, 60mm Distagon, and a 12x18 softbox with a 283 in it. Sometimes I switch to the 80mm Planar for better face shots since when you get real close with the softbox it tends to have falloff on the bottom of the image (closer than 4 feet or so). <p> I usually just mill around in the back of the funeral parlor, and people seek me out, bringing others with them. It works well that way, since I can arrange them on the ample, and stately funiture. <p> I consider funeral photography a valuable asset to the families of those who have died. I have run into some flack tho, from funeral directors who insisted on a "cut", usually 25 percent, of my proceeds because "their photographer" was not used. The two times that happened, one I ate, and one I had them arrange to tack onto the funeral expense at large. My feeling is that their photographer either did not exist, or charge an exhorbitant fee to cover himself and the funeral home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 ................that's just sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Well I wasn't gonna add this, then I was, then I wasn't... but what the heck, here goes...... <p> I would be willing to wager that many users of this forum would be overjoyed at photographing "your" funeral, pro-bono even! <p> Sorry... I just could not resist, damn me to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 You're right... 25 percent is sickening. We agree about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 .......oh God, I was only joking.........Charles, please tell me you're joking too?......please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 Wishing death on someone, not something I have ever done on this site or any other come to think of it, But hey, If you want me dead then that's fine. <p> You really are a sick little puppy aren't you Charles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostly sports Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 I actually posted a rather long thread on the LUG once about how I felt the Nikon F100 with zoom lens and flash on bracket was the perfect rig for weddings, and the Leica M with a couple of lenses was ideal for funerals. The wedding shots really glow with fill flash, and the big rig gives one a bit of authority in the crowd control department ("O.K., all the bride's family on this side!") In contrast, the M fits right into a discrete, unobtrusive documenting of what is generally a quiet family scene. I can't help but pass on Mark Twain's comment that the reason we are happy at weddings and sad at funerals is that we are not the actual parties involved. ;+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_dunlap Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 I was at a funeral a few weeks ago that was not only photographed (with a huge Nikon SLR) but also videotaped. <p> I also remember visiting a distant aunt when I was a kid who had a photo album devoted to her husbands funeral on her coffee table. I recall being particularly creeped out by the pictures (some of which were tightly framed headshots) of the corpse. <p> And, yes, funeral directors have quite a reputation for being racketeers. One of the reasons I'll be cremated when I check out. No need for a $7,000 casket, a $10,000 plot, and a $5,000 funeral service. I'd rather spend the money on something fun while I'm alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles barcellona www.bl Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Amen to that Luke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_rowlett2 Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Charles, that was a rotton thing to say. Nobody deserves that, not even the forum's most deleted participant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 <center> <img src="http://www.spirer.com/images/pall.jpg"><br> <i>R.I.P. Wally, Copyright 2001 Jeff Spirer</i> </center> <p> My wife's grandfather. Every family member has this photo hanging in their hown. It's just one more memory... Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 ........I'm lost for words......photographing and videoing a funeral, it's just too American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_degraves Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 the operative word here is "bleedin'"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert knapp md Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Friends: Please IGNORE Phil. He is a perpetual nuisance to our forum. Don't fall for his silly threads. Tony will yank him soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_shields Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Have a look at Sudek's funeral shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 Albert, stop whining you half-wit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 Albert, stop whining you half-wit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 wow, 2 post, how bizarre? How apt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Phil,how about a more cheerful post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_kneen Posted May 5, 2002 Author Share Posted May 5, 2002 How about - 'What is the best film for capturing the pale tones of my dead granny as she lies in her coffin?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 If that is cheerful,lets go for sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Phil the Pro,what photography is really all about.What is a good photograph,what sort of impact should it create.Now that would be a interesting post...how about it Phil(honest question). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogesh_jeram Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 This thread is dead boring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_travis Posted May 5, 2002 Share Posted May 5, 2002 Jeff, R.I.P. Walley is a great & emotionally moving shot. No wonder everyone has it. Really top notch photography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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