Fringer Canon to Nikon Z mount adapter

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Edwin Barkdoll, Nov 28, 2021.

  1. I’ve coveted the Canon MP-e65 1-5x macro lens for years hoping fruitlessly that maybe Nikon would produce something similar. Neither was there a way to couple it to the Nikon F mount. Then the Z mount arrived and Fringer made a Canon to Z mount adapter which allowed aperture control, autofocus, etc., and I pulled the trigger.

    I have no way of testing functions of the Fringer adapter other than simple things like aperture control and EXIF data since the lens is manual focus.

    Here’s the first test shot, unsharpened, 100% crop, resized to 1500 xdim shot of a moth wing at 5x with 2 Nikon SB-R200 Wireless Remote Speedlights, nominal f/2.8. Not trying for anything special with the shot, just a simple first test, but so far so good!

    Despite my son saying I was “supporting the devil” by buying a Canon lens, I’m pretty happy.

    Anyone else tried the Fringer adapter?

    NZ7_4640 moth scale 100% Canon MP-e65.jpg
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  2. Nice! What's the working distance here?

    No problem with using whatever works best.....:cool:
  3. The Laowa 25 mm is available for both the F and Z mounts and goes from 2.5x to 5x magnification. An excellent lens, I might add. But do enjoy your Canon lens! :)
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2021
  4. Wow. £1700 & f14...:eek:

    You can get a clean, 2nd hand copy of the Canon 65mm f2.8 for £600.

    ...and if you don't mind stacking wide open a cheap (£30) dumb mount should be fine.
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2021
  5. Late Edit!

    Wrong lens! Sorry Ilkka.....:confused:

    Completely missed this lens coming out. Interesting at £400.
  6. It seems that the lens has memory of the last aperture setting - e.g. if I shoot at f/5.6 and take the lens off the aperture stays stopped down. This could be problematic with a dumb mount depending upon what the aperture is when you get the lens.
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  7. A quick and crude estimate this morning gives WD of about 5 inches (12.5cm) at 1x and 1.5 inches (3.8cm) at 5x.
  8. ......or a handy way of making an f5.6 preset for stacking!
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  10. Yes the Laowa does seem like a viable alternative; I have a different Laowa that I am happy with. Two significant features that tilt in favor of the Canon for me are 1) no filter thread on the Laowa - I definitely appreciate the threads on the Canon to which I can attach Nikon speedlights and 2) auto aperture - the Laowa is purely manual so stopping down may also dim the viewfinder making focusing more difficult.
  11. Everyone seems to think it's on par or very close in IQ to the Canon with a slightly more even working distance.

  12. True for DSLRs (unless in LV) but not the mirrorless Z series.

    I guess there's no real 'pop' when trying to focus at these apertures?
  13. Venus Optics/Laowa have just released a very small 85mm x2 macro for Nikon Z, but not F mount. (Also in Canon RF, Leica M and Sony FE)

    Laowa 85mm f/5.6 2x Ultra Macro APO - LAOWA Camera Lenses

    Looking at some of the test images, CA is very well controlled on shiny details, non of that weird colouring going on!
  14. I haven't even thought about using an optical viewfinder for this; for these magnifications, I use both a sturdy tripod but also flash. Focusing in LV is easy enough given sufficient ambient lighting. I use an LED (westcott ice light) for focusing and studio flashes for exposure. I haven't used it outside of the studio yet, though I've had plans. I'll let you know how working in natural light turns out.
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  15. How does focus peaking behave with such a shallow DoF etc?

    or is 'eyeball' better?
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2021
  16. The Z series is only able to compensate for low ambient light up to a point, which often happens when I shoot macro. I sometimes mount an LED on the Z7 when using a stopped down manual lens , like the Laowa, just so I can see what I'm shooting. Not always convenient and can sometimes affect lighting on the subject.
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  17. I use zoom to maximum level of magnification in the LV, then focus using the magnified image by eye. At 2.5x to 5x I almost always focus stack using a focusing rail so I only focus using LV for the first frame.

    Peaking is good for video and the typical resolution requirements of that, which can be 4K or FullHD. I don't really use it for still photography.
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  18. At just £330, the Laowa 25mm x2.5>x5 in F mount should be with me tomorrow!

    As I still use my DSLRs too, getting the Z would be an error!

    Last edited: Dec 1, 2021
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  19. With the kind of extension needed for a 5x mag you're only using the centre 'sweet spot' of any lens. So I suspect almost any decent 24 ~ 28mm prime on a reversing mount would give more than acceptable results. Especially since the effective aperture is going to take you well into diffraction-limited territory.

    My optical spreadsheet tells me that a 28mm lens @ a marked f/5.6 aperture and 5:1 RR has an effective aperture of f/33.6 and is diffraction limited to about 47 cycles/mm resolution.
  20. Typically one would shoot the lens wide open (marked f/2.8) at these magnifications and use focus stacking to extend the part of the subject that is rendered sharply.
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