jason_greenberg_motamedi Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Greetings (and apologies for this not being directly camera related), For a number of reasons I cannot use strobes, and have been thinking of switching from 32k hotlights to 55k fluorescent lights in my studio, primarily for portraits, although now and then for still-life/product type shots with a 4x5 or 5x7. Both Gyoury and Lowel make what appear to be very nice, if overpriced, products. However it would be possible to (diy) make a very similar, although not dimmable, set-up for about a tenth of the price, using kits readily availble for aquarium-lighting, and the same Osram 55watt 5300k bulbs which Lowel uses. Has anyone out there used fluorescent lights in their studio? I am curious what sort of exposures they are getting, how many total watts, and what equipment they are using. Any reactions or responses to use the of Fluorescent lighting in studio? thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_driscoll2 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Fluorescent lighting for still photo usage seems to be a growing trend, but like anything else there are comprimises. A single Kino-Flo 4x4 unit with all the bulbs on will give you F4 @ 1/60 of a sec at four feet!!! They are dialed in at 5500K but really come in a little cooler- so run tests first. I know of several people who built "Kino-Flo" style lights, the main problem seems to be the ballast. Everyone who did it themselves, said if they had to do it again they would just buy Kino-Flo's. They still heat up, if course not as hot has hotlights and HMI units but that is still there. I actually have a Lowel Caselight that I would be interested in selling, email off the list if you are interested. I thought I would use it more often, but I almost never use it. I end up going for the tota's or my elinchrom's. The other problem, is they are very bulky, and awkward to use in the studio. It is much easier to position a 1k Mole Richardson, than a Kini-Flo, or other fluorescent unit. They are also much, much more fragile than strobes or hotlights, but not as erratic as HMI's. Kino-Flo has great support, and are always upgrading their units. If you send something into be repaired, they will automatically upgrade your unit at no charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_finley Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 I won't be a whole lot of help but I did experiment with some aquarium lites and decided that even home built it was prohibitively expensive. What I had was a 4-48"110 watt VHO on electronic ballast giving 440 watts of 6500K flouresent light. DIY wholesale cost about $250.00. I don't remember exactly but it was less effective light then one cheap Smith Victor quartz and even less than a Vivitar 283. I also decided that to get the same fstop I would get the same heat as quartz. Perhaps the commercially available units are different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_driscoll2 Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 by the way, the dim feature on the lights is via turning off tubes, not by cutting current. that would alter the color balance. just letting you know in case you go the DYI route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_salomon Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 "by the way, the dim feature on the lights is via turning off tubes" Only on some, not all units. Kaiser makes 2 and 6 tube versions. The 6 tube are available with either a rheostat to dim to 10% of full output continuously from 100% or with a full.half/quarter power switch. With rheostat it dims without changing color temperature or turning off tubes. With the switch it uses 6/4/2 tubes depending on the setting. The 2 lamp version is available with rheostat or simply on/off switch. Again - with the rheostat it does not turn off the tubes and it dims to 10%. There are other systems from Europe that work the same. So no, dimming does not mean that tubes are turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Normal fluorescent lights flicker at 120 hz or so- can you use shutter speeds faster than 1/60 or so with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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