Flash use on a IIIf

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by jim_cain, Jun 21, 2005.

  1. I hooked up a Metz 34 CS-2 to a IIIf RD, set the shutter speed at 50 and the
    flash went off. Then I noticed the dial below the shutter speed dial that I think
    has something to do with the flash setup. It's marked in increments from 20
    down to 0. Should I just leave it at "0" or what is the best setting? Is the shutter
    speed "50" like an M? Before I put film through it, thought I'd ask.
    Many thanks for your help!
     
  2. You should leave it at zero. This dial sets the delay interval for flash synch; in olden days, flashbulbs took a while to "burn" before they lit up. Modern flashguns have negligible delay - so you want to select zero delay.
     
  3. Jim for Leica IIIf RD the contact should be set at 20 for electronic flash.
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  4. I think the purpose of the delay is to allow the first curtain to be open to one degree or another before the flash fires. Since the electronic flash has a negligible duration, the first curtain msut be fully open, and the second one must not yet have begun to close. Now, let's see: the highest sych speed is 1/50 second, so it must take almost that long for curtain #1 to open. 1 divided by 50 is .02 seconds, or 20 milliseconds. I'll bet the flash sync dial is calibrated in milliseconds, and that's why it needs to be set on 20. I never thought that through before.
     
  5. Oops... mine is black dial, not red dial. I gave you the wrong advice - sorry.
     
  6. I've a IIIf RD and used an electronic flash once without any problems with setting the shutter on 1/25 and the flash delay dial on 0.

    The flash delay dial has to be left at 0 with any electronic flash. And the fastest speed on which the shutter is full open during film exposure is 1/25 not 1/50 IMHO.

    In other words, the X speed on the IIIf RD is 1/25.
     
  7. >I hooked up a Metz 34 CS-2 to a IIIf RD, set the shutter speed at 50 and the flash went off. Then I noticed the dial below the shutter speed dial that I think has something to do with the flash setup. It's marked in increments from 20 down to 0. Should I just leave it at "0" or what is the best setting? Is the shutter speed "50" like an M?<

    Try standing on you're head too, that'd make it even more trubble to take a shot. Sheesh, you dudes must relly like to suffer for you're supper.


    >Before I put film through it, thought I'd ask.<

    You specting to find anyone round hear that ever put film in there Leica, you set down in the rong pew dude.
     
  8. Must be flooding under Steve's bridge....
     
  9. IIIf RD dials
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  10. Thanks all!
    There may be more than I correct answer. Perhaps 25 shutter speed and
    zero compensation is the equivalent of 50 shutter speed and 20
    compensation. Will check it out.
    Jim
     
  11. According to The Leica Book by Theo Kisselbach second edition 1971:

    Leica If, IIf and IIIf red dial 1/50 #20, T, 1-1/25 #0, B #2

    black dial from serial #360,001 1/30 #2, T, 1-1/20 #2, B #6

    " " up to " #360,000 1/30 #0, T, 1-1/20 #4, B #6,5

    I think that comma between the 6 and the 5 is the British useage as a decimal point.

    If you really want to find out the settings for some obscure flash bulbs it has that information too. Email me. I have a stack of old Leica Manuals and such going back to the 1930's.
     
  12. Al

    The comma as a decimal point is used on the continent, here in the UK we use the . as you do.

    Regards

    Bruno
     
  13. Thanks, Bruno. I just wanted to use the comma as it was used in the book, but didn't want any confusion about what it meant. The book I referrenced says that it is an English translation from the original German text.
     

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