First 35mm SLR? Leica?

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by steve_rasmussen, Dec 23, 1999.

  1. I know that Leica produced the first ever 35mm camera in Wetzler in 1913 but was the Leicaflex Std the first 35 SLR? SR
     
  2. rowlett

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    This doesn't directly answer your question, but I think technically
    the M3 could be considered the first SLR because of the Visoflex
    attachment.
     
  3. The first 35mm SLR with a pentaprism as we know today, was the 1949 Zeiss Ikon VEB Contax S camera made in Dresden, Germany.
     
  4. The Leicaflex did not come along until 1964 and the M3 was introduced
    in 1953. Back in 1935 Leica introduced the PLOOT reflex housing along
    with a 200mm f4.5 lens. This, when used with a camera :), is
    considered the first 35mm SLR. The PLOOT used a vertical finder with
    the image inverted horizontally (no pentaprism). The Visoflex 3 reflex
    housing and lenses (direct decendants of the PLOOT) for the M cameras
    were discontinued in 1984. Leica was not the first camera to use
    motion picture film (which we now call 35mm film) nor was it the first
    camera with the now standard 24mm x 35mm format; however, it was the
    camera that popularized both. This is a garbage sentence so all of the
    previou
     
  5. The first SLR using the 24x36 format was the Kine-Exakta, launched in
    1936.

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    Paul Perron
     
  6. Boy! It sure took a long time to get THERE, didn't it! :) (I'm
    agreeing with the Exacta.)
     
  7. The (Ihagee) Exacta, I always thought...
    I have a couple of old German pre and post war camera store catalogs.
    Two things stand out

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    1) How many innovative configurations were available-a far cry from
    today's standardized camera offerings.

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    2) How luxuriously well produced the catalogs were.
     
  8. This is quoted from page 18 of Ivor Matanle's Collecting Classic Cameras (New York: Thames & Hudsons, 1986): "In 1936, Ihagee of Dresden, which had since 1934 been manufacturing its VP Exakta single-lens reflexes designed for 127 size film (eight exposures) launched what is usually credited with being the world's first 35mm single-lens reflex, a major landmark in camera development. According to a 1984 editorial in the British magazine Amateur Photographer, the Kine-Exakta, as it was then known to distinguish it from the rolfilm cameras, was not actually first, having been just preceded by a Russian camera known as the 'Sport'. However, recent (1994) research by the Exakta Circle, a specialist group within the Photographic Collectors Club of Great Britain has confirmed to most collectors' satisfaction that the Kine- Exacta was indeed the first 35mm SLR. The Knie-Exakta, available only with waist-level finder (the advent of the pentaprism had to await the Contax S of 1984), developed an enthusiatic following which continues to this day." If I'm not wrong, Leica did not enter the SLR-market fray until relatively recently, with the 1964 Leicaflex (sometimes referred to as the Leicaflex I).
     
  9. Erratum; part of the above quote from Ivor Mantanle's book should read: ". . . (the advent of the pentaprism had to await the Contax S of 1948) . . . ." Sorry for the typo.
     
  10. The first 35mm SLR was not Exakta. It was a 1935 Russian SLR camera.
     
  11. If your talking about "viewing through the lens" not an actual
    SLR,then it really is the original large-format glass plate cameras
    from last centuary.
     
  12. Nice point, but they were neither 35mm nor SLReflex. I thought it had
    been the Ihagee Exak(IMHO)ta, the one my father used and loved - and,
    boy, not only the manuals were well made and solid - but what about the
    Russian one, any name, photos of that one available?
     
  13. Oops, just noticed that this one is a last centuries thread... Will
    anybody follow it? Hello...?! Anybody out there...? ;o)
     
  14. Lutz: I'm here.

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    The Russian camera, which continued into the early forties, was the
    C*opt (Sport). I can't find any pictures on the web yet. As to
    whether it actually preceded the Exakta, I have no evidence either -
    very contemporary with it in any case.

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    1st SUCCESSFUL 35mm S(ingle) L(ens) R(eflex) - Exakta; 1936.
    Wait-level viewing, no instant return mirror, manual aperture.
    "Reflex" refers to a viewing system with a mirror in the light path to
    make the focusing/viewing image upright and horizontal.

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    1st eye-level (pentaprism) 35mm SLR - Contax S, 1948-ish. Still had a
    mirror that stayed up (a la Hasselblad) after exposure until film was
    wound.

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    1st instant-return mirror: 1955-ish Asahiflex.
     

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