gary_patterson2 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Has anyone tried to mate an older scanner like my Minolta Dimage Scanner Multi to a laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I had a Minolta Dimage Multi Scanner several years ago. If I remember correctly, it required a multi-pin serial connection cable which you're not likely to find on a laptop or even current desktops. I recall trying an adapter to work with another computer connection, but it failed miserably. So, the short answer to your question, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I used to keep an old Macintosh G4 desktop computer with a SCSI (or was it SCSI-2?) card and Viewscan software around just for the purpose of using it with a scanner similar to yours. You can find a similar computer and SCSI card on eBay for not much money. But, like William says, you won't find a laptop that will run it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 After far too much time wasted trying to get my old Minolta Scan Dual 4 to run on Windows 7, I ordered a new scanner this weekend. Vue Scan wouldn’t load correctly twice in a row despite all efforts, 2 new cables, many software download install and uninstall attempts. Got it to work three times, each time it locked up after one partial scan. Same problems with Silverfast and the original Minolta software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What's the interface on the scanner? BTW, often times G3 or G4 era Macs are your friend when it comes to using older scanners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) USB Thought about trying to Vue Scan it to the new IPad Pro. Exchanged emails with Ed. He said “something’s broken” LMAO. Edited June 25, 2018 by Moving On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 From what I can determine, the Dimage Multi has a FireWire 400 interface, as does my Nikon LS-8000. My Lenovo Thinkpad has a FW400 port which works very well with the LS-8000, Silverfast AI 8 and Windows 7. I haven't tried it yet on an Apple MacBook, but I have a USB3 to FW800 dongle which works well with FW audio gear dating to about the same period as the Dimage. FW cards for a PC are inexpensive ($20), but don't always work with the Nikon. The card must have a Texas Instruments chip, and in Win7 or above, you must select a "Legacy" FW driver. The MBP is plug-and-play seamless. The Nikon scanner came with a bare-bones FW card, which is the only one recommended by Nikon. I never had to use it. FW800 is backwards compatible with FW400. All it takes is a cable with a matching connector on each end. For your reference, I've done a lot of work perfecting the use of a digital camera to "scan" and convert color negatives. Slides are a piece of cake. You need a macro lens capable of 1:1 magnification and a film holder, such as a Nikon ES-1 (slides only) or ES-2 (slides and film strips). I use Silverfast HDR for the conversion. Scanning Color Negatives With a Camera 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Thanks, I’ve been watching that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn McCreery Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 When I look up specifications for a "Minolta Dimage Scanner Multi", at Digital Film Scanners - Minolta Dimage Scan Multi Film Scanner Review, Information, and Specifications it states, "Interface to the host computer is via a high-speed SCSI-2 interface, meaning you'll need to have such a port installed in your computer to use it. (Older Macs typically came equipped with SCSI connections: On the new Blue G3 Macs and Windows machines, you'll need to have an interface card installed." Newer models, such as the Minolta Scan Dual 4, mentioned above, should have Firewire connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) The unit came with the cable (different brand) illustrated in the picture. Ed himself had me connect to USB 2 then 3. Then I bought a newer shorter cable. I haven’t used FireWire since I first started editing video tape. Minolta Scan Dual IV Driver for Windows 10, macOS & more | VueScan Scroll down and look at the chart..... “If you have problems with this scanner hanging, try replacing the USB cable with a newer USB cable, preferably a shorter one. This scanner came with a low-quality USB cable, and is also sensitive to USB timing on faster computers.” Edited June 26, 2018 by Moving On Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 No reason to go USB2 to USB3 - they're the same connector and mutually compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 No reason to go USB2 to USB3 - they're the same connector and mutually compatible. Yes but the 3.0 card is faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_hutcherson Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Yes but the 3.0 card is faster. Taking advantage of the higher speed of any interface requires BOTH interfaces to be compliant. When you plug a USB 2.0 scanner into a USB 3.0 plug, you will still only get 2.0 speeds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Yes, I think at that point, (swapping everything around) it was simply a matter of desperate elimination..... “This scanner came with a low-quality USB cable, and is also sensitive to USB timing on faster computers.” Like I say his final verdict was “something’s broken”. I suspect some incompatibility between the software and something installed on my desktop. After quite a bit of digging I found others having the identical problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 New scanner is up and running. Going to be a fun weekend..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Like Glenn, I've kept an older computer just to serve a series of older scanners. This also has the advantage of letting the original scanning software work, if the OS is of the same vintage. Older computers with the software still on them can be had for very low prices, probably less in total than fancy converters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I wasn't trying to draw a red herring about interfaces. In the span between the year 2000 and 2004, film scanners evolved from SCSI to Firewire to USB. I responded using the best information I could find on the "Multi" model. Having "evolved" (backslideen) form PC to Mac a couple of years ago, I run Win7 in a Parallels partition. Given enough memory and disk space, Parallels/Win7 runs Windows applications very well. It is less proficient on using hardware. USB runs fine in general, but I can't wrest control of an USB CD burner away from the Mac side. Perhaps Bootstrap would work better, more independently. With Parallels, however, I can share data and hard drives from both sides of the fence. It is the only way I can use an inkjet CD printer. I doubt I could install and run an XP partition. Keeping an older PC on hand for such contingencies is probably the simplest approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Sorry for the duplicates. My keyboard is starting to stutter, causing me to press "Post Reply" twice more before the first completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBu Lamar Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I have an HP XW6000 with Ultra SCSI320 running XP just for the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Hmmmmm. Maybe for simplicity, a separate SSD for XP..... Link: Can I install two Operating System on different hard drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Swapping hard drives or creating a new partition on the rood drive may not be necessary. External drives connected via an eSATA port (PC) or Thunderbolt (Mac) are treated the same as internal drives. When booting a PC, you have the option of which drive to select. I haven't tried it, but I expect that Bootcamp works in a similar fashion for Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I built a “Gamer” style PC several years back. I don’t do the game thing but wanted generous room for expansion. Might be time to add a drive and dig out the old XP software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moving On Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 First results.....Delta Bluff Sunset Film Camera Week for June 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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