stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Mike, Did you see/smell any like these in Korea?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 These days everyone chastises us westerners, especially Americans (what else is new?)about superimposing our values on other cultures. But they're going to call me an American pig one way or the other, so to hell with PC: that's just plain gross and people who butcher dogs for food should be horsewhipped. Next thing, some culture will be raising children or minorities for food. The interesting thing is the reaction such a photo has on different people. Someone from that culture would just go "ho hum", while I am emotionally enraged by it. There were those famous photos of the slaughter of apes in Africa a few years back, same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 Jay, Worse than the sight was the smell; maybe just an emotional reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 Organ meat on the back table. I unwittingly ate dog meat soup and fried rat in China, northeast of Mongolia. They had quite a laugh when they informed me after I ate it. Dog meat is quite gamey, rat meat tastes like chicken. <(8*)> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Rowlett Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <i>"Next thing, some culture will be raising children or minorities for food.</i><p> This is a long stretch to go from eating dog or rat or cat to this to consuming people! Backups? We don’t need no stinking ba #.’ _ , J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 I wonder what Hindus think of our fondness for cows, or Muslims/Jews think of our pig butchering. But, cows and pigs are not pets, at least for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 The bucket below the table, as I remember, is to catch the run-off for other use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_byrd1 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <<some cultures will be raising...minorities for food>> Someone quipped that, if the world ended today, the headlines tomorrow would read: WORLD ENDS; WOMEN AND MINORITIES SUFFER MOST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 I had the wonderful ladies, whom happen to be Korean, translate the sign: Evidently, they make and sell a beverage made from the dogs that mainly Korean men drink to enhance their libido, much like gall bladder wine and rhino horn is supposed to do (Asian Viagra). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael b Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 To think of dogs and cats as pets oversimplifies IMHO. They seem unique in their relationship with humans. Recent studies propose that dogs and cats have, in fact, bred those traits that make them most appealing to humans. Beyond that, both animals have served man with special abilities -- the jobs dogs have done are undeniable, cats probably saved Europe from the plague and have been been indispensible to countless farmers. Beings that find the most useful aspects of these creatures is as food must be from Mars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 So, is that where the term "Chow" comes from? : - ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Speaking of eating humans...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <a href="http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/%7Ebenjamin/316kfall/316ktexts/swift.html">A Modest Proposal</a> </body> </html> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_. Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <<"Next thing, some culture will be raising children or minorities for food. This is a long stretch to go from eating dog or rat or cat to this to consuming people! -- Tony Rowlett>> Why? At one time there were tribal cultures that practiced cannibalism, not sure if there are still any, but it's certainly not unheard of. And I didn't say anything about rats, of course someone will chime in that they have a pet gerbil or pet chicken or whatever. People always go from the sublime to the ridiculous to try and discredit a valid argument. But in the western world, and in many advanced civilizations throughout history, dogs and cats were kept as pets. And before anyone asks, yes I am vegetarian, but it's for health reasons not because I'm one of those over-the-top animal rights guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_lazzarini Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Gecghk!<p> BTW, if I keep tomatoes as pets, does that mean I shouldn't use them in my cooking? :-#<p> Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I can't fathom any logical argument against eating dogs that would be distinct from a logical argument against eating other (non-human) animals. The fact that dogs are more popular as pets (at least in the Western world, at this particular time) than some other species does not seem a logical delineation. In other words, if you're against eating dogs, you should logically be against eating cows, pigs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_byrd1 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Jay, there still is cannibalism along parts of the Congo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Jeez, I'm trying to eat lunch. (I think I'll look for a "chrome vs. black" thread to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_m_johnson Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_shakeshaft Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 >But in the western world, and in many advanced civilizations throughout history................ I think laying mines and dropping cluster bombs on humans is also pretty objectionable, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 They Say the Blond Dogs Taste Better Pink pigs taste even better.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I think I have a few snaps of sides of dog hanging up in the open markets near where I lived in Seoul. I've had the dog meat soup--loaded with ginger, it tastes pretty good. In my experience, what they say about it increasing ones sexual stamina has some truth to it. As for the smell, raw gaegogi is kind of foul, but not much more offensive than cigarette smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_byrd1 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Martin, the same areas where cannibalism is practiced also have a lot of inter-tribal warfare. They kill one another with the best weapons they have. In the West, we also have inter-tribal warfare and we also kill one another with the best weapons we have. But we don't, in addition, eat each other. So to say that the West and these cannibal societies are morally equivalent just isn't so. Surely that is not what you were implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_shively Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 "I think laying mines and dropping cluster bombs on humans is also pretty objectionable, too." The North Koreans are working on producing nuclear weapons. If they eat dog meat.... While we Westerners go a wee bit overboard on the "animal rights" stuff, I'll take it over a meal of fido. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_fang Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 <i>"that's just plain gross and people who butcher dogs for food should be horsewhipped. Next thing, some culture will be raising children or minorities for food."</i> <p>No different than our slaughtering of cows for steaks, I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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