movingfinger Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 More good news on the film front: the Italian film company Ferrania has announced that their 35mm BW film P30 is back and their on-line shop will open later this month. See their announcement here: http://www.filmferrania.it/p30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I watched on you-tube the Art of Photography blog where he interviewed the US representative for the company. They covered the entire story about the machines, problems and successes and the history of Ferrania.. It's pretty interesting and it's great that essentially a new film producer is risen from the dead. Apparently they are going to be a film manufacturer and that's all they want to do. P30 is just their first film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Film Ferrania remains fraught. After collecting quite a bit of dough and goodwill via their Kickstarter campaign, they've yet to deliver anything anyone can put in their cameras. First it was an E-6 material, now it's b&w--neither materialized. Sorry but I'll believe it when I can buy their product and shoot it. Till then, Kodak and Ilford get my vote and $$$. No one can shoot Dave Bias's spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Not sure what you mean with all the negativity. The b&w is simply the first two layers of the E6 film they wish to market. They are currently producing it and it has been tested by numerous photographers. This will allow them to get the coating facility up to snuff. So, you saying they have not delivered anything that can go into a camera is simply false. Maybe know something about the topic before you attack the people and company trying to pull this off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Well I watched the video and did not see anything there that I felt was not valid information. I hope they are successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I also not get the negative reaction; when I saw the kickstarter, to me it appeared they actually managed to set reasonable expectations about the long time they'd need to get things started back up. It's not like a flick of a switch, and they made that pretty clear. If I can find this film, I'll probably give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 If I can find this film, I'll probably give it a try. Not sure what you mean with all the negativity. The b&w is simply the first two layers of the E6 film they wish to market. They are currently producing it and it has been tested by numerous photographers. This will allow them to get the coating facility up to snuff. So, you saying they have not delivered anything that can go into a camera is simply false. Maybe know something about the topic before you attack the people and company trying to pull this off. https://www.dpreview.com/news/8905338486/film-ferrania-p30-black-and-white-film-will-get-a-limited-alpha-release Where's the product, Dave? Please direct me to the "numerous" photographers' postings outside the one mentioned above."Alpha" testing? Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 They've given themselves until the end of the month to start selling the alpha P30 online. Surely we can wait a week or two before advancing on the Ferrania factory with torches and pitchforks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Lots of Kodak, Ilford and Fuji products on the shelves now. Think I can continue to live happily without Ferrania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 If I can find this film, I'll probably give it a try. https://www.dpreview.com/news/8905338486/film-ferrania-p30-black-and-white-film-will-get-a-limited-alpha-release Where's the product, Dave? Please direct me to the "numerous" photographers' postings outside the one mentioned above."Alpha" testing? Priceless. Like I said...actually know something about the topic before uou spout off. Here is a test series of images from rolls provided to an Italian photographer who tried using different developers and exposure ratings. You said there was nothing to load into a camera. You are wrong...just like I said. http://www.filmferrania.it/news/2017/alpha-testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 However I plan on buying a few rolls when it's comes around. You never know what a film might offer you until you try it. I have a few rolls of StreetPan 400 at my son's house and he will bring it over soon. Actually he purchased it and is giving me some of it. It's a strange world out there. Out of all the people I know not one of them has a camera beyond their cell phone. But my son and I are hobby photographers and we both shoot film and both of us want to try the new Italian film for sure and all the other B/W films that they bring out in the years to come. If they survive as they are on a shoestring budget and it is hard to start manufacturing without cash. But we will just have to wait and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Like I said...actually know something about the topic before uou spout off. Here is a test series of images from rolls provided to an Italian photographer who tried using different developers and exposure ratings. You said there was nothing to load into a camera. You are wrong...just like I said. http://www.filmferrania.it/news/2017/alpha-testing Unless you're working for or with Ferrania, you know no more than the rest of us who've read what Ferrania reports. They have to get a reliable product to market simply to maintain credible. They need more than a few test shots--and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wouter Willemse Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Fine, then you do not buy the Ferrania film, and the rest of us will have the patience to wait a bit more, to see if we can actually try it for ourselves. I still see no reason why you repeatedly need to pretend that Ferrania is vapourware, and act like those who do think they will deliver are setting themselves up to be deluded. Unless you joined the kickstarter and they confirmed you in writing you will never see your money back, I think the negativity is completely uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Unless you're working for or with Ferrania, you know no more than the rest of us who've read what Ferrania reports. They have to get a reliable product to market simply to maintain credible. They need more than a few test shots--and soon. I know some of the people involved in the project. That said, what I know or don't know isn't the issue. The issue is you said no film has been made to put in a camera. I have corrected that misinformation. It would also be nicemif people were positive about this type of development as opposed to always looking for what can go wrong. It gets tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I know some of the people involved in the project. That said, what I know or don't know isn't the issue. The issue is you said no film has been made to put in a camera. I have corrected that misinformation. It would also be nicemif people were positive about this type of development as opposed to always looking for what can go wrong. It gets tiring. Please...Neither of us can get the stuff. That's a fact, bro. Ferrania has been all about delays since the Kickstarter campaign began. Let's see how it does if/when P30 or any Ferrania product becomes widely available. Happy talk and "positive" comments seem quite beside the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Shame we don't have an ignore feature on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Williams Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Let's see how it does if/when P30 or any Ferrania product becomes widely available.And if it is available in their shop by the end of the month, will you be placing an order..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I'll be happy to wait until all those P30 "Alpha" testers post/discuss their results. Popcorn, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I'll be happy to wait until all those P30 "Alpha" testers post/discuss their results. Popcorn, anyone? There's already a test available for you to review. Maybe lose the attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The count down clock has started on their shop site. Sales begin March 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Please...Neither of us can get the stuff. That's a fact, bro. Ferrania has been all about delays since the Kickstarter campaign began. Let's see how it does if/when P30 or any Ferrania product becomes widely available. Happy talk and "positive" comments seem quite beside the point. So would it some how bother you if they got it together and got a film to market? You sound like you have some kind of animus towards it, and as you say you've never seen it and tried it. Do you hope it fails for some reason? If so, why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On another note, It looks like Scala is being made again. http://www.freestylephoto.biz/59440-Adox-Scala-160-ISO-BW-Reversal-Film-35mm-x-36-exp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 So would it some how bother you if they got it together and got a film to market? You sound like you have some kind of animus towards it, and as you say you've never seen it and tried it. Do you hope it fails for some reason? If so, why? Still waiting, just like you and everyone else, for widespread availability and testing. Till then, the jury's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_watson1 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On another note, It looks like Scala is being made again. http://www.freestylephoto.biz/59440-Adox-Scala-160-ISO-BW-Reversal-Film-35mm-x-36-exp. No N. American labs can provide the proprietary processing Scala still requires, right? Loved the old 200 version, especially in 120. Guessing http://www.dr5.com/ can handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I will not need wide scale testing myself. It's just a roll of film and I will buy some and shoot it. Then decide for myself if it delivers for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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