Fake Canon DSLR's floating around?

Discussion in 'Canon EOS' started by stuart_bellamy, May 3, 2009.

  1. I am wondering if anyone knows if there are fake Canon dslr's that have been manufactured in the East, particular China? I have a friend there on work and he says that he can get a 5D Mark 2 for $700 from a 'source', i know that China has a reputatiopn for producing fake products and pretty close to the original product.
    If they are fakes, then i am wodering if they are of the same standard as the original, in terms of performance, IQ, build etc... Anyone have any experience about this?
     
  2. No specific information about this but I would think it was more likely the cheap gear has 'fallen off the back of a loory' as we say in the UK.
     
  3. You certainly know the saying about things that are too good to be true...
     
  4. is it a disguised nikon?
     
  5. Stolen gear is far, far more likely than a counterfeited DSLR that is in any way functional.
     
  6. "is it a disguised nikon?"
    Nah, there's no way you could make a Nikon look that good. :))
    Stolen gear is a good possibility if the "source" is a person. If the "source" is an on-line dealer, it's a rip-off scam. Either way, you lose....
     
  7. I see. Is there a way of checking the serial number on the camera to see if the camera is indeed a fake or an original stolen camera?
     
  8. "Nah, there's no way you could make a Nikon look that good. :))"
    Sure you coulld. Just drag a D40 behind a car for a few days and then spray paint the lens white. That way the lens will match your belt and shoes.
    On a more serious note - i wouldn't touch a Canon 5D Mk II for $700. It really is too good to be true. It is an excellent camera (my brother-in-law has one) and well worth paying a legitimate price.
     
  9. I have heard from Canon reps in Beijing (where I live) that there are counterfeit cameras lurking around, though I have never seen one. But maybe that explains why EVERYONE in Beijing seems to have a 5DMkII!
     
  10. If someone would have the technology to reproduce such hig-end quality cameras, I don't think it would be making copies, but launch their own line of products instead. Selling a $3000 value for $700 sounds like a product fallen off a truck.
     
  11. I see. Is there a way of checking the serial number on the camera to see if the camera is indeed a fake or an original stolen camera?​
    Stuart, your best strategy is not to figure out how to see if the cameras are stolen/fake (the latter is pretty much an impossibility) but to run, quickly in the opposite direction from whoever is promoting this "deal."
    There is no way it can be anything but bad news. Either the camera is stolen or the "vendor" is preying on the fact that certain people will put aside logical disbelief when faced with a "deal too good to be true."
    Sort of like you seem to be doing. :)
    Dan
     
  12. Its probably not fake, its probably third shift.
     
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  14. Wow! Great deal! Let us know how it turn out . . .
     
  15. Entire motor vehicles can be, and are, counterfeited in China.
     
  16. Last week the NY Times ran an article on counterfeit cell phones titled, "In China, Knockoff Cellphones Are a Hit ." Apparently they're everywhere. That said I think a digital slr is a bit more complex than a cell phone and my guess is low priced dslrs is more likely due to "grey market" or outrght black market than to counterfeiting.
    Henry Posner
    B&H Photo-Video
     
  17. Hey, I want a Chinese knockoff beamer!
    No knockoff DSLR models but I have seen cheap plastic cameras with a knockoff Canon logo. Even had a fake pentaprism housing but no pentaprism. I saw a pair of knockoff "playboy" jeans. The bunny logo was missing one ear...
     
  18. I agree with Henry - there is NO way to fake a 5D...not if the buyer is minimally aware of what is purchasing.
    As for prices that are "too good to be true", we get gazillion posts about that here and the answer is always will be the same: Any seller who claims to have items FAR off the normal market prices is a scam. Never fails.
     
  19. I see. Is there a way of checking the serial number on the camera to see if the camera is indeed a fake or an original stolen camera?​
    I'm trying to work out why you'd want to know which, and in which eventuality you'd be prepared to buy the item in question.
     
  20. On a similar note. Did those fake San Disk CF cards from ebay work properly?
     
  21. I can't believe no one mentioned this yet. This is an very old scam from Brooklyn NY. I guess they are just starting to do it in China.
    First they sell you a real 5D but with the battery, charger, and cables removed. Once they get your Credit Card Number, someone will call you and inform you that you need the "deluxe package" which includes those items but costs $6,000. Or, they sell you the pieces alacarte' like $2,000 for the battery and $3000 for the charger and so on.
    Now here's the kicker, after they get your cash for the "should have been included" items, they sell your Credit Card Number to identity theives in Nigeria. Run,.....Run Away...
     
  22. It will be a fake. Please pay attention. Even google sidebars give links to scam sites.
    The link to Anepax is listed as we speak.
    Try : http://www.anepax-world.com/ ( it was www.entacdirect.com first)
    And then try : http://www.futureshop.ca , the last ones are the real people.
    They do not accept credit card and the verisign does not link to Visa :-ยง
    Good luck but pay attention !
    Arjen
     
  23. There are fake cars , why not fake cameras too?
     
  24. "There is a sucker born every minute". Pretty funny how most assume it is a real 5D MkII, or a copy that has the same capabilities. It may look somewhat like a 5D MkII, but it could have anything under the hood so to speak. I would be very suspect that it is a real 5D MkII. While it is a possibility that it is stolen. My bet would be that it is a knock off, where there is no real criminal implications for the 'source'.
    I'd be interested in seeing it just out of curiosity of what could be passed of as genuine. I bet it would look fairly convincing and most would not be able to tell from just looking at it, unless they have handled the original a lot. I'd be interested in seeing if it could really take canon lenses, or how many mega pixels it really has. A lot of people would not know 5mp from 20mp, and would not know a canon lens from a knock off. Even then, a good con man can talk people into just about anything.
    Save your money, unless $700 is an entertainment deal for you. And don't let your curiostiy get you into a bad situation.
     
  25. OMG- now we are going to get posts about "I just bought a 5D MKII how can I tell if it's a fake?" please - there hasn't been ONE documented case of a fake Canon DSLR that I am aware. Why start these silly rumors?
     
  26. OMG- now we are going to get posts about "I just bought a 5D MKII how can I tell if it's a fake?" please - there hasn't been ONE documented case of a fake Canon DSLR that I am aware. Why start these silly rumors?​
    +1!
    Dan
     
  27. I've seen pictures of little keychain models of 5D MkII's. But $700 would be way over priced for them. Regardless, don't encourage anyone involved in shady dealings by giving them one dime. You can bet that any fake will not be as good as a real Canon for the same money. Get an XSi or if you need great resolution, put your $700 on a medium format film camera.
     
  28. ""is it a disguised nikon?"
    Nah, there's no way you could make a Nikon look that good. :))
    Stolen gear is a good possibility if the "source" is a person. If the "source" is an on-line dealer, it's a rip-off scam. Either way, you lose...."
    Oi vei, stupid me for not spending double just to do better landscapes. I merely went for a D300. :)
    Heh, jokes aside, that's a scam or a stolen item. I've been looking for a "deal" for months ...until I bit the bullet, went into a store and bought a new D300, Nikon ..because Ogres don't like pretty cameras like Canon :p
     
  29. there hasn't been ONE documented case of a fake Canon DSLR​
    I hope I've quoted what I'm replying to correctly...
    anyway, I'm in NZ and visited a local pawn shop to see what they had. I was offered a Canon 400d which I was considering as a backup (I already own a 400d). I asked to look at it and give it a test, and noticed that it was set to L image quality. When I wanted to set it to RAW, there was no RAW setting available. So I grabbed my own camera to compare the various menus. The second tab in the menu was completely missing, in the first tab RAW was missing, and in the tab where you can lock the mirror up for manual sensor cleaning was missing (plus most of the other settings in that tab). I doubt that Canon released a version without all those features, so I'm guessing it's a fake?
    I mentioned my concerns to the pawnbroker and he said he would look into it and get back to me. The serial number looked legit, and everything about the body looked legit - it was only in the menus that I noticed the discrepancies.
    He had $NZ450 owing to him on the camera by whoever pawned it, and I reckon whoever owes the money got a good deal and the broker got scammed (he knew nothing about cameras and I had to explain to him the features that were missing).
    I went very quickly from "yeah, maybe I'll buy this" to "no frikkin' way am I buying this, it's gotta be a counterfeit".
    I'll go see him later in the week and see how he got on with Canon - and if he's either sold it or not been in touch with Canon, then I will be. I'll let you know the outcome.
    :)
     
  30. Hi, here is my situation got a Canon PowerShot D10, from a website that sell goods from Hong Kong (I found this after purchase) on opening the box I found:
    - No Canon warranty
    - Photocopy of the User Manual
    - Cheap looking cables
    - Box with Chinese and English writting
    - No Genuine Canon logo Hologram anywhere
    - Check the serial number with Canon UK they didnt recognized
    - CD Rom different from the ones I have seen on the internet unboxing videos
    So, product coming from Hong Kong and all those details, it is without a question a fake product, what do you think?
    Send the product back, now waiting for refund
     
  31. Scam.
    Write this phrase on the blackboard 100 times: If it looks to good to be true, it is.
     
  32. I echo all the responses that say if it is too good to be true, it likely is. I did click on the link to joibuy.com, and had a look at the 5D MKII. The camera they show, which clearly displays the 5D MKII badge, has a pop-up flash! I have a MKI not a MKII, but neither of them has a pop-up flash, and if you compare a photo of the real MKII, you see that the angles are completely different. I bought my MKI just after the MKII came out, and got it brand new for $1200, so if $2500 is to much for you to pay for the MKII, consider a second hand MKI, it's an awesome camera, and I doubt you will regret spending the money. Or at least not as much as you'd regret spending $700 for a paper weight.
     
  33. Hi all!
    well i am totally new here so hiya!
    and this paticular thread caught my attention because it touches on counterfiting.
    I currently work for the department of commerce as an audio enginer.
    i help produce events related to everything from heritage months to blood drives in the auditorium at the commerce building in downtown washington d.c.
    about a year ago, i helped set up an event that shed light on industry counterfiting where people would counterfit everything from duracell and energizer batteries to widescreen tv and even computer chips and Iphones.
    the procesws goes something like this,,
    there is a reject rate for items built in any given factory. say the first run of a PC board for a gaming console or a camera.
    the componets that pass inspection go on to make the final product while the regects are trashed and recycled..
    when the factory is closed or dormate, assembly lines can be started to procude final products from the rejected componets and sold as real items.
    so in essence, a counterfit ipad or 5DMk3 or lens, are the real thing but are made with rejected componets and passed of as certified stuff..
    do you all remember when canon released photos of them destroying mass amounts of 10,000 dollar 600mm and 300 mm lenses?
    we all cried..
    but the lenses were actually counterfit lenses made with crap parts from bad factory rejects..
    just google "Mass destruction of the Canon cameras"
    but the point i joined this cool forum to make is that counterfit stuff is a real problem and the fakes are very hard to tell from the real thing simply because they are real just made by unscrupous factory owners or employees who make 22 cents per hour building this stuff for overweight rich humans..
     
  34. guys... check this online seller... www.oemdea1.info they sell a $631 canon 5D MII including shipment fee and good freebies... i wanted to take one but after checking the blogs here, i'm having doubts... they are even saying that it has an authenticated serial number and a Canon warranty... they also have the invoice and maintaining card... probably, this is a part of what brian is saying... it was a product of rejected parts which was reproduced... the question then, will this have the same photo quality as the authenticated one...? what do you think guys..
     

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