arthur_gottschalk Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I'm planning an important road trip and I'd like to shoot my last remaining roll of Tri-X 220, even though it's several years expired. Should I take the chance or use only fresh film? Any specific advice for exposing and developing expired film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck909 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 An IMPORTANT trip? Go fresh of course. Save the 220 for an unimportant trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Out of tens of shootings with outdated film (some up to 30 years old), I've only had a couple of episodes of things like weird graininess and so on, BUT if it's an important trip, I'd use fresh film (well, actually, I'd use digital, but that's not what you asked). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Out of tens of shootings with outdated film (some up to 30 years old), I've only had a couple of episodes of things like weird graininess and so on, BUT if it's an important trip, I'd use fresh film (well, actually, I'd use digital, but that's not what you asked). For road trips, I take a digital camera and film camera, usually only one of the latter per trip. Most of my film is in my basement darkroom, which stays cool, even in the summer, between about 50F and 65F (winter to summer). But I also have some film in the refrigerator and freezer. When I was young, I learned from my father about buying recently outdated film. The day after, it was usually sold half price, and obviously not much different from the day before. Color film might be dated a year or so out (if you buy new), and black and white film maybe two or three. And note that one day in a hot summer car can ruin film, in or out of date. Three years is not all that much for Tri-X. (It is for TMax 3200 and Delta 3200, though.) Note that amateur film is aged before it is sold. Your "new" film is about a year old, and two or three before it is out of date. As well as I know, there is no new TX220, though. I would bring a digital camera, where the important shots would go. If it is only ordinarily important, you are probably fine. If it is "once in a lifetime" important, get new film. When I was young, I also learned about matching batch numbers (usually for color film). That was to reduce variation between rolls. My dad did it before a trip to Europe. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricochetrider Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I say go for it... but take 2 cameras and fresh film too. Just in case. Of course it help to know how the film was stored. If it's been frozen its whole life, the risk may be minimized? Oh and please do post your shots upon returning home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allancobb Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 How old is it? I’ve used frozen TXP 220 successfully with expiration dates back to 2010. Older than that and the grain reached unacceptable levels, even when processing with HC-110 which normally works well with expired film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_autio Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I'm planning an important road trip and I'd like to shoot my last remaining roll of Tri-X 220, even though it's several years expired. Should I take the chance or use only fresh film? Any specific advice for exposing and developing expired film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_autio Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I recently have been processing both fresh tmax 35mm and 8 year old tri-x. The tmax is rich with all values, with a clear base. My client’s film consistently has opaquing in it’s base, resulting in milky blacks. I quipped to him that he must’ve been storing it in the oven. He just says it’s old.I don’t shoot 35 mm normally, but it was fun using his Leica for three weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 I recently have been processing both fresh tmax 35mm and 8 year old tri-x. The tmax is rich with all values, with a clear base. My client’s film consistently has opaquing in it’s base, resulting in milky blacks. I quipped to him that he must’ve been storing it in the oven. He just says it’s old.I don’t shoot 35 mm normally, but it was fun using his Leica for three weeks. Normally 35mm film has a gray base, and 120 a clear base. The gray base helps with antihalation, but also light piping. When loading with the tongue sticking out, light can follow down the film like a fiber optic light pipe. A uniform gray doesn't change anything, except for needing a little more exposure. It is not so easy to tell looking at the negatives, between a gray base and a small amount of fog. -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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