Elmar-C 90mmlens

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by jason_gold|1, Oct 8, 2000.

  1. I was offered a Leica Elmar-C 90mmm f4.o lens for my M3/M2.
    Want to know does it couple exactly to the Rangefinder.Can I use it for close up(about 3ft) at maximum aperture?It will be used for blow ups..8x12 and larger.I had a Tele-Elmarit,early model.I am not interested in the Other lenses,Summicron,Summilux,Elmarit-M.The price is reasonable
    for Leica,so is there a problem ?
     
  2. Jason,

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    My Hove pocket book on Leica cameras and lenses says that even
    thought the Elmar-C was designed for the CL, it can be used on M
    series cameras. Additionally, Gandy's Leica site says the same thing
    in a round about way... indicating that he feels the warnings about
    miss-matched focusing cams might have been a way to sell more
    lenses...(his opinion). I am including his lens pages, which runs
    through all possible options... cheap to "the best".

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    I think in the speed range of that lens, f4.0, it should be pretty
    good. It was made in the 1970's and is a fairly conservative design,
    so it was easy to make. As lenses are made faster and faster, the
    optical problems start to show and must be corrected with various
    design tricks... but a nice slow f4.0, 90mm lens should be no problem
    for lens designers.

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    You can access Gandy's site at:

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    http://www.cameraquest.com/mlenses.htm
     
  3. I have used the Minolta Rokkor variation (which is the same lens with
    a different name)and it sure is compact and easy to handle. I didn't
    notice any incompatibilty with the focusing cam with an M3.
     
  4. (Copied from another thread)

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    Yes, there may be a problem. It is a great lens but was designed
    for the Leitz/Minolta CL. The CL lenses had a different, steeper
    lens focusing cam than normal M and CLE lenses. The CL
    camera, which does not have to focus f1.0 lenses, has a
    simpler, shorter based rangefinder mechanism. The M and CLE
    cameras' rangefinder is fine tuned by adjusting the length of the
    roller arm which means that it can be in a slightly different
    position horizontally from one camera to another. The short
    ending to the long story is that quite often the M and CLE
    camera's rangefinder will not couple to a CL lens correctly. Point
    the combination at a point at least two miles away and, if
    everything lines up OK at infinity, it should be fine. If it does
    couple correctly, bear in mind that it may not work so well with
    your next body. Do not forget there is a M mount 90/4 that is also
    not very expensive .

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    Cheers
     
  5. Thanks for the imformation.
    FWIW the 90mm C lens hit infinity perfectly with M2.
    The M3, my main camera...no way near !Definitely it will not work.Its a nice looking lens but I shall wait for a faster and better focus match.I wonder if the Voigtlander lenses have same problem,being built for thier shorter Rangefinder base,similar to CL/CLE...
     
  6. The Cosina/Voigtlander use the same design rangefinder
    coupling cam as the all the M (including CLE) and LTM cameras.
    Only the Leitz/Minolta CL lenses have the "steeper" coupling cam
    design.
     
  7. The Cosina/Voigtlander lenses use the same design
    rangefinder coupling cam as the all the M (including CLE) and
    LTM lenses. Only the Leitz/Minolta CL lenses have the "steeper"
    coupling cam design.
     
  8. Sorry about the stutter.
     

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