Dropping cameras

Discussion in 'Beginner Questions' started by bedfordwebster, Jun 28, 2020.

  1. Hi

    I have my heart set on buying a used Ricoh GR. And then saw a utube review, which claimed he broke his GR by simplying dropping it about one foot high. The motorized lens won't extend anymore.

    So, I am womdering if I should now look for a non-motorized compact instead.

    Or is dropping your camera like that highly unlikely?

    Btw, I drop my cellphone many times before...possibly because my hands are small and dont have strong grip strength.

    Wat is your thought?


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  2. also, wat is yur thought on buying a used compact instead of new?

    The GR is abundant here on Facebook Market. I can get one at half the price of a new one.
  3. In a word, don't drop them.

    Use a strap; neck strap, wrist strap, neck strap wrapped around your wrist, whatever suits you.

    But do use a strap.

    Performance relies on the lens and film being aligned to a tenth of a millimetre, or a few hundredths in the case of fast, wide angle lenses.

    To say nothing of the mechanical complexity required for an extending lens.

    Digital with on-sensor focussing (most compacts, mirrorless) is a little more tolerant of misalignment.

    (You don't say if it's a film or digital GR you want)

    But my initial advice still stands, don't drop it!
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  4. Digital. And the newest I can afford.

    Probably a GR-2.
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  5. I am also thinking wat about when the camera is inside my backpack?

    The camera could get banged around, while inside a backpack.

    And I always use a backpack, because I dont own a car, but ride buses and trains.

    I guEss I would need to buy a padded camera baggie.

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  6. The extending lens is the weakest part of this type of camera. I've seen numerous 'compacts' made useless by the lens being jammed open or shut.

    I've just looked at the new price being asked for a Ricoh GRIII, and - WHAT!? Worst value for money around IMO.

    I picked up a little used Sony a6000 with kit 18-55 (non-telescoping) lens a couple of years ago, for about 1/6th the price of that Ricoh new. The a6000 delivers great pictures. OK the kit lens isn't the sharpest around, but there are stacks of lens options available in Sony E mount.

    The Ricoh is hyped as a 'street' camera, and as such appears to be pretty much a one trick pony. So, personally, I'd strongly rethink the choice of this overpriced and 1980s-designed looking thing.
    Which should tell you that people are buying it and almost immediately selling it. That says a lot to me.
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  7. here in China, we can buy new GR-2 for just 450 USD.
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  8. Oh. Only twice what it's worth then.
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  9. I'm not entirely sure I agree, I can see the benefits of a GR style compact, though the prices mean I've never been able to justify one for myself.

    Large sensor and pocketable tick the boxes for me, but the extending, 28mm (equivalent) lens is a huge turn off, too wide for my taste.

    But I clearly see the appeal of something I can shove in a pocket when I'm not specifically going out to take photos, or when family touristing, when I might have other priorities and stuff to carry.

    Just not found anything that's quite to my taste and bank balance so far...
  10. I'm +1 with @steve_gallimore|1: do whatever you have to do (use straps, avoid leaving your camera lying around on a table, protect your camera in transit) to make sure it doesn't drop. The choice of straps is personal (mine is for a 1-shoulder strap). As you rightly point out, you need to protect your camera when on route. Padded camera cases are fine, but they can be bulky, especially when you're carrying around other stuff. And if you have your camera out (on a strap), you're also lugging an empty padded case around.

    I have 2 padded camera bags but I hardly ever use them. I prefer to use my 'photography backpack' 90% of the time. Not just for photography equipment - a lot of other stuff can fit in there too. The backpack can hold everything that I might need on a 'photo shoot': camera, lenses, flash, reflector, spare batteries, flash cards, documents/notepad,. etc.But at other times, I also use it to stuff in a waterproof instead of a lens. Or leave out the flash and add a few nutrition bars/drinks. My point is that my camera and any additional lenses I might need are always protected when bicycling or taking public transport. Sometimes (10% of the time) I know I won't need my 'photography backpack'. So I take a smaller, lighter, thinner (unprotected) backpack. With a folded towel on the bottom (to soften the impact of putting backpack on the ground).And with any additional lenses individually wrapped with towels/cloths.

    So figure out what works best for you.
  11. Sandy Vongries

    Sandy Vongries Administrator Staff Member

    Sounds like what the OP needs is one of the various "Tough" cameras.
  12. Tony Parsons

    Tony Parsons Norfolk and Good

    I have a second-hand Canon Ixus, which lives inside a small padded case in my pocket when i take it out for walkies. After I use it, I immediately shut it off and return it to its case. Even though it was not a major expense, I enjoy what it does, and some of the pix I have posted in 'No Words' were taken with it - the quality seems to stand up well against my DSLRs.
  13. My Nikon CP P6000 fits that bill perfectly, it's about the size of a Minox 35 or Leica CL. It's only 13 megapixels, but then it only cost me 80 quid used a few years ago. Canon's G series are a similar size and have quite impressive image quality.
  14. James G. Dainis

    James G. Dainis Moderator

    Even a 6 inch strap on the camera can prevent a lot of drops.
  15. Well I don't think you should have a problem with breaking a camera that easy.. Also it is bigger than your phone so you won't drop it as easily
  16. Cameras don't take drops well, and modern autofocus cameras are worst of all. They have lots more moving parts than cell phones and were never designed to absorb what a cell phone can. A one foot drop to the wrong spot will probably kill most real cameras. Many people today have no concept of the idea of a precision instrument that has to be treated with care. I go to great lengths not to fumble a camera, keeping the strap around my neck at all times or until it's safely attached to a tripod. If I hand a camera to somebody, I put the strap over their head first. In these days of social distancing I don't pass equipment at all.
  17. Every youtube review I saw gave glowing review of the camera.
  18. I currently use an Olympus TG-320, on the plus side, it's tiny, possibly too small, cigarette packet sized, waterproof and generally pretty tough. I keep it in a small padded case in a pocket of my work jacket. It has a wrist strap. For the beach, I add a floating wrist strap which is larger than the camera!

    The image quality is nothing much though, I can't help but think that there are just too many pixels on the tiny sensor. Battery life is poor too. It appears to need -0.7 EV compensation in almost all situations, which is easy to set, but a pain to adjust quickly, it's also the only manual control there is.

    Low light? High ISO? Any control over depth of field? Forget about it...

    Still, for a camera I can take places I wouldn't even take my phone, it fills a role.

    Always looking for something better though...
  19. The most important question is, is it right for you?

    28mm focal length is something you'll either like or hate.
  20. The GR series has a cult following. People will either love it and sing its praise or stay far away from it. Same with Leica and Lomo. You can certainly find better value but not something that ticks all the same boxes. If you are drawn to the camera, why not just get it and avoid dropping it?
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