stephen_persky Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hello, I was just comparing many of my old prints to the 1Ds Mark II. I have many prints from Leica cameras and medium format. The range is 8x10 to 13x19 to 16x20 prints. I have to say that the prints from the 1Ds mark II beat them all. The resolution is just amazing even at all resolutions. I feel that 35mm does not even come close to the Digital prints from the 1Ds Mark II. I would say that the only close film comparison would be film 6x6 or larger. It is truly amazing to have the versatility of a 35mm camera combined with Medium format or better quality. Just really happy with the Canon DSLR. I hope this post does not offend. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 If it just weren't for those pesky 8,000 reason's I can't get one......darn it! Yes it is, for now, the ultimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbreak Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Dear God, before I die, may I please find a 20D clone that has fullframe 35? Please? thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambrick007 Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 "I hope this post does not offend." <p> Only tho$e of u$ without the ca$h... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_persky Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 Here is a sample shot. I used a B&W conversion in photoshop.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squareframe Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 the prints I make from my $8000 Canon 1Ds Mark II, are better than those from my $179 Minolta SRT-101. sorry to offend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_persky Posted March 9, 2005 Author Share Posted March 9, 2005 Well here is what happened. I was all ready to buy the 1D mark II and I decided to download some Raw shots from the 1Dmark II and the 1Ds Mark II. My wife and I compared many printouts, and we could see an obvious difference. Both cameras beat my 35mm film shots. So I just asked my wife for the extra 4k for the 1Ds Mark 2. She said sure it is like having medium format and 35mm all rolled into one. It seemed cheap when you look at it that way:) Regards Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent_j_m Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 It's going to get even better, just wait another year or so when the release the mark-3, with a bajillion more pixels. They are no longer cameras, they are consumer electronics. Gone are the days when you could buy an OM2N and it would work for the next 30 years with nothing to beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crowe Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 "For now" is the key. There will be improvements to sensors and probably even more to processing speeds and memory. It won't be too long before the 8000 reasons will be reduced to only 1000 to 1500. They strung us along for 20 years telling us they were making exposure better, then they strung us along for 20 years telling us they were making autofocus better, they have spent the last 10 years actually working on something new and they'll spend the next 10 perfecting it. That will give them the next 20 year phase to string us along while they work on autofocus again in a continual attempt to improve it. Then they'll realize that they do not need the lens at all for imaging purposes and figure away to get rid of that! Some sort of x-ray, lazer, radar, ultrasound, cellular, RF, 3-d hologram imaging device with colour. I do hope they'll leave me alone in my retirement to finish off the last bits of film and flash cards. I certainly do not want to have to learn something new again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Just don't post this on the Leica forum or you'll get stoned (and not in a good way...) for your blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.j._porter Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 >>Just don't post this on the Leica forum or you'll get stoned (and not in a good way...) for your blasphemy.<< Yeah, but can it do Glow? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve santikarn Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 this is a question, not an answer. Would the B&W print you get from the inkjet printer of the above digital image be as good as the print that you would get if you used film camera and the old wet chemical printing process? I just can't get any decent B&W prints from my inkjet printer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_taylor Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 "So I just asked my wife for the extra 4k for the 1Ds Mark 2. She said sure it is like having medium format and 35mm all rolled into one. It seemed cheap when you look at it that way:)" Up next: Stephen asks his wife for the money to buy a turbo Porsche so he can drive to the room he wants to rent for a month at the Playboy mansion...AND GETS IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_taylor Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 "I was just comparing many of my old prints to the 1Ds Mark II. I have many prints from Leica cameras and medium format. The range is 8x10 to 13x19 to 16x20 prints. I have to say that the prints from the 1Ds mark II beat them all." That can't be! Where's the super-film crowd with their tests and FBI links (but no images) to PROVE that expired drugstore ISO 200 print film makes the images from your 1Ds mkII look like somebody spit on a roll of 110 film before printing? And if you have Leica glass in front of that 35mm drugstore film...MEDIUM FORMAT, WATCH OUT! (Sorry, couldn't resist. BTW, does your wife have a single sister? I'm looking for a woman who will just give the OK whenever I want to spend large sums of money on camera equipment ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 "I'm looking for a woman who will just give the OK whenever I want to spend large sums of money on camera equipment ;-)" I don't bother to ask my wife. I just buy it. All cameras and lenses look the same to her... Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricks Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Stephen, I'm glad you like your new camera. I wish I could motivate buying but that price point isn't something I'm willing to spend (then add L glass). Partly, I think you are just high on high quality digital! :-) A DSLR w/ good lens/es is a perfect tool for shooting kids, which is what I use it a lot for. Can it get better? Sure, one just have to pay more money. That the resolution and print quality of a $8K camera vs. a $1,000 Leica or any-brand-SLR is higher/very impressive isn't really a shocker. But that doesn't change the fact that they serve different purposes, nor that resolution is everything. In a perfect world, I wish I could own/use all of them! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew robertson Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Dan, I have said it before. You buy the equipment first, and then justify it to the wife later. After all, does she consult you before dropping a few hundred at the beauty parlor / clothing store / shoe store? I'll bet not, and I'll also bet she does that several times a year at each location! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfram_strohschein Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 well as long as there is no clear way to get those digital image in the same quality to a baryth paper, as I can with my Mamiya 7 I would never spend that much in getting high quality pixel images I can watch on my computer. My goal is getting high quality long lasting B&W barith prints. I don?t like those inkjet prints in tone and quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erin.e Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 The best time for guys to ask for pemission from their ladies to buy camera equipment etc is in the pre orgasmic instant, so you need to hone those others skills up too! I hope this useful post does not offend! Just real happy with my new Porsche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derek_c. Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 At $8k, it better be good.<br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anna yu Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Doesn't offend me at all, but my husband and bank manager might be very displeased :D I'm hopping over this generation and waiting for the Mk3 instead. Cheers/Anna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant g Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 "I don't bother to ask my wife. I just buy it. All cameras and lenses look the same to her..." Unfortunately, I made the mistake of telling my wife that she only needed to worry when the lenses that arrive are white...one can't hide a 70-200IS very easily. And right now, the 1DsII is the carrot for many photographers to turn pro, or take on paid work they'd normally turn down...IT BETTER BE GOOD! Personally just waiting till they get a LOT cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vatovec Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 My car is now worth cca. $4.000 (a 4 year old Fiat), so I gueass a $8.000 camera must be that good (can it drive You some place?). =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ky2 Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Grant, yeah-- but the 16-35 and 24-70 are black ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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