david_eicher Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Some may remember my query about correction lenses and my decision to go in for another eye test. Here were my results. Well, went down to the eye doctor and my eye sight has actually greatly improved over my former -1 diopter. I have actually enter the + 1/2 on my left eye. The doctor said my main problem now is just astigmatism, a curving of the lens in the eye, I guess is my dilema. Seems I could get some eye glasses made that would help, but sure would like something to test with the camera before spending more on these glasses. I will check with him and see if he might be able to provide a test lens for my camera (left it at home) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 "just astigmatism" is quite problematic if there's much of it. What is the prescription of the eye that you view with (probably your right eye)? There will be a spherical, a cylindrical and an axis figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_eicher Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Well, if I am correct in assuming that the OS is my right eye SPH PL CYL -075 Axis 074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Doesn't the "S" in "OS" stand for sinister, Latin for "left"?<br/>OD (oculus dexter) should be your right eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_eicher Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 LOL, well they could write it in dang english, couldn't they?? Here is the OD reading. SPH +0.25 Cyl -1.00 Axis 109 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 SPH +0.25 Cyl -1.00 Axis 109 Spherical of 0.25 is not a lot, but see my comments below about different camera viewfinders. -1.00 of cylindrical is enough to need correction if possible. Read the article on wiki about optical prescriptions at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyeglass_prescription The standard correction lenses sold by camera manufacturers are spherical and correct for near or far sightedness. They have no directional quality, so for example if you turn a camera 90 degrees to take a portrait there will be no difference in the effect of the spherical correction. On the other hand, the cylindrical correction has an orientation, hence the 'axis' measurement. If you had cylindrical correction for your viewfinder and turned the camera 90 degrees it would be worse than no cyl correction. The eyepiece correction would ideally have to be turned back 90 degrees to keep it at the original orientation to the eye. This could be an argument for a square format camera since there is, of course, no need to turn it for portraits IF you need cylindrical correction. Choosing the spherical value is tricky because it needs to be for ideal viewing of a certain distance that depends on the viewfinder system, not infinity which is your optical prescription for 'distance vision'. I think recently there was a post about Bronica viewfinder corrections where they stated that perfect viewing through the viewfinder was at an eye focus distance of something like 3 metres. So for that camera you would need as a correction: 1.your distance spherical value 2.plus a bit for viewing at 3 metres not infinity 3.plus your cylindrical value (in your case it's negative) The value of item 2 is different for different cameras, hence the trial and error approach usually recommended. I have almost no cyl correction and -1.75 spherical for distance vision. For a Leica I need -2, for a Nikon I need -2.75, and for a Mamiya 6 (for which only whole number diopters are available) -1 is better than -2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_eicher Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thanks so much for your time and effort on this John. Again I can see the reasoning for Auto Focus!! Lots of info in that link. I use a 645 format. Mostly my Mamiya for the Recessional shots. The Bronica ETRS is used if it is an outdoors wedding for flash sync reasons. My lack of a wide angle for it does cause me some problems with opting to use it indoors also. Another issue is the way my Stroboframe is set up. My flash sync cord ends up scrunch tight when I go to the Portrait position, some cords will not work at all. I think I can redo the frame to correct that though. Broncia has the sync cord connection on the side of the camera, while Mamiya has it on the front. No issue with that camera. I do find I can see better thru the Bronica, so I may just have to find that wide angel lens. I always thought the reason for seeing better thru the Bronica was the image appeared brighter too me. I would hate to do it, but glasses could be bought over having multiple diopters being made. I have not gone thru all the info from the link you sent yet, but would glasses, made to my prescription, help me with my Mamiya or as you stated would I still have problems between using Landscape and Portrait modes, when doing my photographs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_stockdale2 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 "I have not gone thru all the info from the link you sent yet, but would glasses, made to my prescription, help me with my Mamiya or as you stated would I still have problems between using Landscape and Portrait modes, when doing my photographs?" The glasses would help. There would be no difference between portrait and landscape camera positions, because the glasses would stay in the same position relative to your eyes regardless of how the camera was held. Given that you have astigmatism and a camera correction would be somewhat difficult, glasses seem like the obvious solution. I have glasses for distance vision (driving, blackboards etc) but I find it a bit harder to focus compared to the camera diopter (and no glasses, obviously). I don't know if this is because the eye is further away, or that the glasses' distance correction is not quite right for the cameras. But it's very much better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_eicher Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 >>The glasses would help. There would be no difference between portrait and landscape camera positions, because the glasses would stay in the same position relative to your eyes regardless of how the camera was held.<< Went down and started the process of new glasses. Cheaper in the long run than diopters for 4 cameras. I very much appreciate your help on this matter. Once I get them, around the 25th, I will run some test shots for both my Bronica and Mamiya cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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