muris_saab Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I love B&W portraits and people photography. I would like to hear from others 10D users how to produce good B&W digital pictures. What camera settings you adjust before shooting and what adjustments are made afterwards so the picture look like a good B&W film picture. Thanks for any input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbq Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 "shoot raw, expose to the right, and you won't have to worry about any other camera settings as everything will be done in post-processing". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 i shoot pretty normal, usually at 2/3 stop under metered, in RAW or highest quality jpeg. Try processing with The Imaging Factory's B&W Pro, then add some real film grain to get a better effect.<p> <center><img src="http://www.spirer.com/images/brits1.jpg"><br><i>Two Girls, Copyright 2004 Jeff Spirer</i></center> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muris_saab Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Any frequently used Photoshop filters/effects on B&W ? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron_lam Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Here is a pretty good tutorial: http://www.eyesondesign.net/pshop/bw/converting_to_bw.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WM Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I was wondering about the same too. Jeff, I have always liked your photos, especially your B&W. Your digi shots look like film................what is your trick to conversion ? My conversion looks so smooth, it just doesn't look like film somewhat.......too clean......and when I add noise, it does not look like film either. But then again.........like I said once, and I'll say it again, your famous "Bunny" shot always freaks me out ! Wee-Ming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher. Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Raw, convert in ps elements using channels plug in.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 <i>what is your trick to conversion ?</i><p> The trick to the texture is grain. I recently switched to using scanned film grain, applied as a layer, usually with the layer mode on soft light. With hard light mode, you get an ultra-grainy effect. I also tend to like high contrast, which helps the look.<p> <center><img src="http://www.spirer.com/stceagle/images/stc16.jpg"><br> <i>Bone Cootes, Copyright 2004 Jeff Spirer</i></center> <p> <i>your famous "Bunny" shot always freaks me out </i><p> Hah, the bunny is wacked out. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_woodard Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 A good way to simulate film is to shoot some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muris_saab Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Gary I agree with you and I have done that for that past 10 years and that is why I love B&W. Now that I am shooting digital, I would like to learn from others how they produce the same great results. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khitrovg Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I would only like to add, that in photoshop try adding a tiny bit of Noise and your digital b/w photos will be very hard to distinquish from analog. For weddings this effect in indespensible. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muris_saab Posted August 12, 2004 Author Share Posted August 12, 2004 Here is a test... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 youre overexposed already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_kurian Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 How's this? Step as follows.Layer-adjustment layer-hue satuation-saturation to max negative value. Then filter-texture-grain-apply intensity and contrast to your likeness.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 <i>A good way to simulate film is to shoot some.</i><p> How do you shoot film in a 10D? He said that's what he has, so your answer indicates some insight into how to do this. I'm just wondering, because mine doesn't seem to take film. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwilburn Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 One of the better tutorials is Petteri's <a href="http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/n_Digital_BW/n_Digital_BW/a_Digital_Black_and_White.html" target="_blank">Digital Black and White</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottfrey Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 I posted the action I use on my website http://www.fx4.net/nuke/modules.php? op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=3 It's based on a article by Bruce Fraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrivers Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Another good PS plugin is at www.pixelgenius.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poul Posted August 15, 2004 Share Posted August 15, 2004 shoot RAW, of course. open in 16 bit mode in PS, open channel mixer. adjsut to your taste. usually you will get a lot of grain effect if you slide the hell out of blue channel to the left, but it depends on the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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