elf Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Time to stop screwing the camera to the Tiltall every time I get to a location, but I really resent the displacement problem with verticals. By the time I've rearranged the tripod the shot is gone. Has anyone had any serious good experiences with any of the tripod heads that keep the axis of the lens in the same place when turning the camera from horizontal to vertical? If you've tried out any of the options, could you tell me about which ones as well? I've been researching but I may have missed some. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hank_pennington Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Try a RRS L-Bracket. Short of using lenses with tripod collars, it's the only solution I have found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_kennedy Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 I have to admit I'm a little confused by your question, but I think you're asking about shooting verticals versus horizontals off the tripod, and how when you switch to a vertical shot, you need to recompose. Unless you use a lens with a tripod mount (where you just loosen the collar and rotate the camera, lens stays put), then you'll have this issue. Using an "L-bracket" QR plate may help a lot. Really Right Stuff and others make L-brackets for several popular camera models with A/S-type QR plates. They look very nice, but might be a little pricey. RRS is worth the cost, though IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_kennedy Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Darn. I should have refreshed before I replied. I could have just said "ditto." ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_bridge Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Felt you pain years ago before spending the bucks for quick release systems and camera L brackets. Check out Kirk and RRS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaginator Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 That's a very good question... and sounds like a good idea for my next project (as if I don't have too many already) I like making things myself. Should be simple to build, but might get heavy, depending on what lens you will be using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elf Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 I realize lens collars are a wonderful thing, but short lenses don't seem to be made with them. From my perspective the best conceivable invention, if some engineer were going to spend his/her spare time in the shop, would be some sort of lens collar that worked for Canon and Nikon lenses. Then the problem might be solved. Also, if someone can elucidate for me how the bracket works, I'd really appreciate it. The descriptions I've read, here and otherwise, don't seem clear and I can't figure it out.... sorry if I'm missing something obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_miller3 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 For the L-bracket description the best thing to do is to go the manufacturers web sites (http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/ - they have pictures which illustrate better than I can explain). But briefly the l-brackt attaches to your camera just like any wuick release plate. Except the l-bracket is just ine big plate that wraps around the side of your camera. If you have your camera on your tripod horizontally and want to switch to vertical you just slide your camera off the tripod, rotate the camera to vertical and slide it back on (instead of flopping your camera over into the groove in your ball head). I may be wrong but I think all the l-bracket solutions are designed for an Arca-Swiss plate system only. But the L-bracket and arca swiss (or Kirrk or RRS equivalent) are worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm1 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Stroboframe Vertaflip. Yes, I have one, it does what it is supposed to do. I'm not making it up. End of discussion. Cheers, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_dunn1 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 you could go Hassey and never have to worry about it again or go medium format with a rotating back and be very happy I am sure. Your quailty will go up 300% as well :~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidv1 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Bogen (Manfrotto) has got an L-bracket for their octagon quick-release system. It's pretty solid stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_strutz Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 A Stroboframe Vertaflip is a lot quicker than an L bracket with quick release plates. It or something like it is what you're looking for. And I also have one & it does exactly what you are asking of it. The camera rotates in position, keeping the lens in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank uhlig Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 I have a small amount of doubt about the stability, lack of vibrations etc with a device like the Vertaflip: too many joints, too many cantilevers. This will work for the 1/125 sec exposures, but what about the 1/15 ones? When the shutter vibrations travel down the hardware, all bent out of the way ... Convenient: yes; useful: dubious. I think for critical photography, there is nothing like the L brackets to keep compositions intact when going landscape <==> portrait. There are just no cantilevers in an L bracket more than 5 mm long ... not like the 50 mm multiple ones with the Stroboframe ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Frank, if you haven't tried it don't knock it. If you have tried it and found it wanting, please say so clearly. Cheers, Dan Note that the lady's using a Tiltall, which is a relatively flimsy tripod. Your concerns may be misplaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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