Paul Lewis1664881697 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>After a lot of searching, I'm still confused....</p><p>1. Are Superia 1600 and Natura 1600 the same film? If not, what's the difference?</p><p>2. Are either films available fresh/in-date in the U.S.?</p><p>3. Are either films available fresh/in-date in Japan? I believe Natura 1600 is, based on Yodobashi's website.</p><p>Thank you!<br>Paul</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugen_mezei Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>Not much help from me, the only thing I read is that Natura 1600 is different from Superia 1600. If I remember correctly color is different between the two.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin O Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>You can download the Superia 1600 datasheet here:<br> <a href="http://www.fujifilm.com/products/consumer_film/pdf/superia_1600_datasheet.pdf"> http://www.fujifilm.com/products/consumer_film/pdf/superia_1600_datasheet.pdf</a><br> and the Natura 1600 datasheet (in Japanese) here:<br> <a href="http://fujifilm.jp/support/filmandcamera/download/pack/pdf/datasheet/ff_natura1600_001.pdf"> http://fujifilm.jp/support/filmandcamera/download/pack/pdf/datasheet/ff_natura1600_001.pdf</a></p> <p>I don't know if they are the same, but if you compare the MTF curves of both films, they look identical.</p> <p>You can buy a 3-pack of Natura here:<br> <a href="http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/film-analog/natura-135-36-3-pack.html"> http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/film-analog/natura-135-36-3-pack.html</a><br> I had a good experience buying from the Japan Exposures Webshop.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin O Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>Just to add, you can buy Superia 1600 in the US here:<br> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Fujicolor-Superia-Negative-Exposures/dp/B00005QF7H/"> https://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Fujicolor-Superia-Negative-Exposures/dp/B00005QF7H/</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>My recollection is that the color response of Natura 1600 is optimized for photographing cherry blossoms. A seasonally produced film available in springtime.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin O Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 John, I think you are thinking of Fujifilm Fortia - a Japan-only reversal film, which is now discontinued as far as I am aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Lewis1664881697 Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>Thanks for the responses. I'm going to buy some Superia 800 and either Superia 1600 or Natura 1600. I am more interested in shooting in available (low) light and will give these a shot. I can handle the grain, but I have to find out if the color palate works for me. I may also push Provia 400x (from the freezer) to 800 or 1600.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>I suppose there could be differences so small that they didn't affect MTF.</p> <p>I would think that color balance differences would make small differences in MTF, but maybe not.</p> <p>Probably should also look at any other curves that are supplied.</p> -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugen_mezei Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>Some say (and I have seen images) that Superia 800 pushed to 1600 is "better", mostly finer grain, than Superia 1600.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 <p>Colin, you're probably right on the Fortia. Designed not to blow out and hold color saturation in highlights. Cherry blossoms are a very delicate pink.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Luttmann Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 They are the same film. Superia is a worldwide stock. Natura is a Japanese only version that was branded for the Natura point and shoot camera series. Even the coding on the film is identical. I was shooting Natura and Superia side by side in Tokyo doing street photography...no differences at all between them....other than the nicer Natura packaging. Hey Les, the link for your web site doesn't work. Is it still up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Lewis1664881697 Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 <p>Thanks everyone. Just bought six rolls of Superia 800 and will try at 800 and push to 1600.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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